Re: [PATCH] IDE udma_status = 0x76 and 2.5.30...

Re: [PATCH] IDE udma_status = 0x76 and 2.5.30...

[Andre Hedrick]

This has now become an utter JOKE!

If we examine Table 2-3 of the Retired SFF-8038i rev 1.0 the only document
to describe the behaviors of Bus Master IDE Status Register.
It is a R/W field.

Bit 7: Simplex RO
Bit 6: Device 1 DMA Capable RW
Bit 5: Device 0 DMA Capable RW
Bit 4: Reserved "MUST RETURN ZERO ON READS" !!!		Vendor Write
Bit 3: Reserved "MUST RETURN ZERO ON READS" !!!		Vendor Write
Bit 2: Bus Master Interrupt	STATUS R Clear W
Bit 1: Bus Master Error		STATUS R Clear W
Bit 0: Bus Master Active	STATUS

Vendor Write, is not a published or listed techincal term.
It is me trying to present this clearly enough so that the masses will see
how poorly the general understanding of the basics in 2.5.

Not to worry, I am sure UnderDog will come an save the day soon enough.

Regards,

Andre Hedrick
LAD Storage Consulting Group

Re: [PATCH] IDE udma_status = 0x76 and 2.5.30...

[Petr Vandrovec]

On  5 Aug 02 at 13:08, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> Bit 7: Simplex RO
> Bit 6: Device 1 DMA Capable RW
> Bit 5: Device 0 DMA Capable RW
> Bit 4: Reserved "MUST RETURN ZERO ON READS" !!!     Vendor Write
> Bit 3: Reserved "MUST RETURN ZERO ON READS" !!!     Vendor Write
> Bit 2: Bus Master Interrupt STATUS R Clear W
> Bit 1: Bus Master Error     STATUS R Clear W
> Bit 0: Bus Master Active    STATUS
> 
> Vendor Write, is not a published or listed techincal term.
> It is me trying to present this clearly enough so that the masses will see
> how poorly the general understanding of the basics in 2.5.

If you'll bother with reading code, you'll find that dma status
is reported after:

(dma_stat & 7) != 4 ? (0x10 | dma_stat) : 0;

Because of same code is used in your 2.4.x ide-dma.c (at least in
2.4.19-rc5), I'm really happy that now I know that you are really 
familiar with your code.

Code ORs read value with 0x10 to make sure that it reports non-zero
value when error happens (when chip returs dma_stat == 0x00). And 0x10 
was choosen because of this bit should be always zero, as you know.

Maybe we should print value after ANDing with 0xEF, but why? Everybody
can read code when in doubt.
                                            Petr Vandrovec
                                            vandrove@vc.cvut.cz
                                            

Re: [PATCH] IDE udma_status = 0x76 and 2.5.30...

[Andre Hedrick]

Petr,

Funny reading the code of udma_status in pcidma.c I see nothing that can
report the contents of busmaster register undoctored.  Only udma_stop
returns a binary state or that is all it can do.

Your point about about code familiarity is a lark.

On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Petr Vandrovec wrote:

> Code ORs read value with 0x10 to make sure that it reports non-zero
> value when error happens (when chip returs dma_stat == 0x00). And 0x10
> was choosen because of this bit should be always zero, as you know.

The only time known when it returns a non 0xE7 maskable value or the inner
bits are set, is when you poke the dma engine when it is BUSY and/or EOT
has not occurred.  So clearly you have broken the EOT checks because
clearly it is not needed in broken host drivers.

Now, to hand you a clue bat!

I have observed this in the port forward into 2.5 also, and have seen
dma_status return on a simplex setup with 0xFF.  Now given that I have
correct EOT checks, and from a brief overview of 2.5 can not tell if
they are exist anymore, it can only mean that events are outside the model
of the DMA State Machine.

The result is if the inner two bits on the top and bottom nibbles are set,
the damn thing is busy and code is wrong on the calling events.


Cheers,

Andre Hedrick
LAD Storage Consulting Group

On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Petr Vandrovec wrote:

> On  5 Aug 02 at 13:08, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> > Bit 7: Simplex RO
> > Bit 6: Device 1 DMA Capable RW
> > Bit 5: Device 0 DMA Capable RW
> > Bit 4: Reserved "MUST RETURN ZERO ON READS" !!!     Vendor Write
> > Bit 3: Reserved "MUST RETURN ZERO ON READS" !!!     Vendor Write
> > Bit 2: Bus Master Interrupt STATUS R Clear W
> > Bit 1: Bus Master Error     STATUS R Clear W
> > Bit 0: Bus Master Active    STATUS
> > 
> > Vendor Write, is not a published or listed techincal term.
> > It is me trying to present this clearly enough so that the masses will see
> > how poorly the general understanding of the basics in 2.5.
> 
> If you'll bother with reading code, you'll find that dma status
> is reported after:
> 
> (dma_stat & 7) != 4 ? (0x10 | dma_stat) : 0;
> 
> Because of same code is used in your 2.4.x ide-dma.c (at least in
> 2.4.19-rc5), I'm really happy that now I know that you are really 
> familiar with your code.
> 
> Code ORs read value with 0x10 to make sure that it reports non-zero
> value when error happens (when chip returs dma_stat == 0x00). And 0x10 
> was choosen because of this bit should be always zero, as you know.
> 
> Maybe we should print value after ANDing with 0xEF, but why? Everybody
> can read code when in doubt.
>                                             Petr Vandrovec
>                                             vandrove@vc.cvut.cz
>                                             
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Re: [PATCH] IDE udma_status = 0x76 and 2.5.30...

[Andre Hedrick]

Try

dma_timer_expiry()
 
if ((dma_stat & 0x18) == 0x18) /* BUSY Stupid Early Timer !! */
	return WAIT_CMD;

That will expand the dma_timer_expiry timeout to give the hardware a
chance to complete; however, if ya'll have successfully goat screwed the
EOT you die in a LOOP.

On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Andre Hedrick wrote:

> 
> Petr,
> 
> Funny reading the code of udma_status in pcidma.c I see nothing that can
> report the contents of busmaster register undoctored.  Only udma_stop
> returns a binary state or that is all it can do.
> 
> Your point about about code familiarity is a lark.
> 
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Petr Vandrovec wrote:
> 
> > Code ORs read value with 0x10 to make sure that it reports non-zero
> > value when error happens (when chip returs dma_stat == 0x00). And 0x10
> > was choosen because of this bit should be always zero, as you know.
> 
> The only time known when it returns a non 0xE7 maskable value or the inner
> bits are set, is when you poke the dma engine when it is BUSY and/or EOT
> has not occurred.  So clearly you have broken the EOT checks because
> clearly it is not needed in broken host drivers.
> 
> Now, to hand you a clue bat!
> 
> I have observed this in the port forward into 2.5 also, and have seen
> dma_status return on a simplex setup with 0xFF.  Now given that I have
> correct EOT checks, and from a brief overview of 2.5 can not tell if
> they are exist anymore, it can only mean that events are outside the model
> of the DMA State Machine.
> 
> The result is if the inner two bits on the top and bottom nibbles are set,
> the damn thing is busy and code is wrong on the calling events.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Andre Hedrick
> LAD Storage Consulting Group
> 
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Petr Vandrovec wrote:
> 
> > On  5 Aug 02 at 13:08, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> > > Bit 7: Simplex RO
> > > Bit 6: Device 1 DMA Capable RW
> > > Bit 5: Device 0 DMA Capable RW
> > > Bit 4: Reserved "MUST RETURN ZERO ON READS" !!!     Vendor Write
> > > Bit 3: Reserved "MUST RETURN ZERO ON READS" !!!     Vendor Write
> > > Bit 2: Bus Master Interrupt STATUS R Clear W
> > > Bit 1: Bus Master Error     STATUS R Clear W
> > > Bit 0: Bus Master Active    STATUS
> > > 
> > > Vendor Write, is not a published or listed techincal term.
> > > It is me trying to present this clearly enough so that the masses will see
> > > how poorly the general understanding of the basics in 2.5.
> > 
> > If you'll bother with reading code, you'll find that dma status
> > is reported after:
> > 
> > (dma_stat & 7) != 4 ? (0x10 | dma_stat) : 0;
> > 
> > Because of same code is used in your 2.4.x ide-dma.c (at least in
> > 2.4.19-rc5), I'm really happy that now I know that you are really 
> > familiar with your code.
> > 
> > Code ORs read value with 0x10 to make sure that it reports non-zero
> > value when error happens (when chip returs dma_stat == 0x00). And 0x10 
> > was choosen because of this bit should be always zero, as you know.
> > 
> > Maybe we should print value after ANDing with 0xEF, but why? Everybody
> > can read code when in doubt.
> >                                             Petr Vandrovec
> >                                             vandrove@vc.cvut.cz
> >                                             
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Andre Hedrick
LAD Storage Consulting Group

Re: [PATCH] IDE udma_status = 0x76 and 2.5.30...

[Alan Cox]

On Mon, 2002-08-05 at 21:08, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> If we examine Table 2-3 of the Retired SFF-8038i rev 1.0 the only document
> to describe the behaviors of Bus Master IDE Status Register.
> It is a R/W field.

Andre - you are assuming the drive vendor follows 8038i and didnt just
leave the reserved bits random. At that point 0x76 makes reasonable
sense since its two DMA capable devices + a reserved bit and interrupt
with bus master error. 

Which simply means the code is still broken rather than anything truely
insane is happening. 

Alan