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From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@cam.ac.uk>
To: Manuel Stahl <manuel.stahl@iis.fraunhofer.de>
Cc: "Hennerich, Michael" <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	"linux-iio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-iio@vger.kernel.org>,
	"device-drivers-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org"
	<device-drivers-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] blue part 6: IIO abi rework
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:38:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E316668.7080607@cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E315A79.9080209@iis.fraunhofer.de>

On 07/28/11 13:47, Manuel Stahl wrote:
> Am 28.07.2011 11:52, schrieb Jonathan Cameron:
>> On 07/28/11 09:33, Manuel Stahl wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I had the time to read through the discussion recently, so just a few comments:
>>>
>>> Am 28.07.2011 10:08, schrieb Hennerich, Michael:
>>>> Jonathan Cameron wrote on 2011-07-28:
>>>>> On 07/27/11 15:41, Michael Hennerich wrote:
>>>>>> On 07/26/2011 01:06 PM, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>>>>>>> On 07/26/11 11:52, Michael Hennerich wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 07/26/2011 11:17 AM, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 07/26/11 10:01, Hennerich, Michael wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Cameron wrote on 2011-07-25:
>>>>>>>>>>> Michael pointed out the issues that not having an explicit
>>>>>>>>>>> direction for channels was causing and the inconsistency of the
>>>>>>>>>>> inX and outX channel naming we got from hmwon.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They are stuck with it, but we aren't, so lets fix this now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting question is whether we reset the base units to be
>>>>>>>>>>> volts whilst we are at it? (for voltage channels obviously!)
>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean exactly volts versus milli volts?
>>>>>>>>> Make the in_voltage_scale correspond to conversion to volts instead
>>>>>>>>> of millivolts as now (I think). Err. Looking at it that isn't
>>>>>>>>> actually documented... oops.  I wonder which drivers actually do
>>>>>>>>> that and which don't.
>>>>>>>> The ones I wrote provide the scale for millivolts.
>>>>>>>> With the recent introduction of IIO_VAL_INT_PLUS_NANO we got the
>>>>>>>> scale accurate enough for the precession 24-bit converters.
>>>>>>>> If we move to the SI base unit volt, we lose this accuracy again.
>>>>>>> Yup, that's the principal counter argument to the change.
>>>>>> If we decide to leave the milli scale for volts... Do we also want to
>>>>>> stay with milli degrees Celsius, etc.? If we do it for one, probably
>>>>>> best to do it for them all..
>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>> So stick with the milli scale for all?
>>> If it's possible, I would like to have pure units. I didn't read the
>>> API with IIO_VAL_INT_PLUS_NANO completely so I don't understand the
>>> problem yet, but using milli just because the drivers we have in
>>> place can measure relatively low voltages make no sense for me.
>> The issue is we have two integers to play with.  The first is
>> used for the integer part.  The second is divided by either 10^6 or 10^9
>> and added on.
>>
>> If we go to 10^12, then max value for the decimal bit should be:
>>   999,999,999,999.
>>
>> Unfortunately we only have a 32 bit int (to avoid use of div64 in drivers).
>> It's signed as well to allow us to set the integer bit to 0.  Hence max
>> value is 2^31 = 2 147 483 648.
>>
>> Hence not enough and the hole.
>>
>> Next question is whether this is an issue.  I doubt it with _scale, _offset
>> _calibbias, but just possibly with _calibscale where very small adjustments
>> may occur (hence 0.999999999999 is possible.)
> Does it help to support exponential formats like 999999.9999999e-10?
Nasty...  I'd rather just put more bits the two values if we need to.


  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-28 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-25 13:23 [PATCH 0/2] blue part 6: IIO abi rework Jonathan Cameron
2011-07-25 13:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] staging:iio: ABI rework - add in_ or out_ prefix to channnels Jonathan Cameron
2011-07-25 15:19   ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-07-25 13:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] staging:iio:Documentation sysfs-bus-iio add in and out prefixes Jonathan Cameron
2011-07-26  9:01 ` [PATCH 0/2] blue part 6: IIO abi rework Hennerich, Michael
2011-07-26  9:17   ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-07-26 10:52     ` Michael Hennerich
2011-07-26 11:06       ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-07-27 14:41         ` Michael Hennerich
2011-07-28  8:03           ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-07-28  8:08             ` Hennerich, Michael
2011-07-28  8:33               ` Manuel Stahl
2011-07-28  9:52                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-07-28 12:47                   ` Manuel Stahl
2011-07-28 13:38                     ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2011-07-28  8:36               ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-07-28  8:36                 ` Michael Hennerich
2011-07-28  9:40                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-07-28  9:53                     ` Michael Hennerich
2011-07-28 11:58                       ` Jonathan Cameron

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