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From: David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andy@kernel.org>
Cc: "Nuno Sá" <noname.nuno@gmail.com>,
	"Angelo Dureghello" <adureghello@baylibre.com>,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <jic23@kernel.org>,
	"Nuno Sá" <nuno.sa@analog.com>,
	"Lars-Peter Clausen" <lars@metafoo.de>,
	"Michael Hennerich" <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] Documentation: ABI: IIO: add calibphase_delay documentation
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 09:56:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <896023ae-c279-4201-a7a8-dfd9b33fe0e5@baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aBI3eUPirZEXpZgG@smile.fi.intel.com>

On 4/30/25 9:45 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 09:21:28AM -0500, David Lechner wrote:
>> On 4/30/25 12:40 AM, Nuno Sá wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2025-04-29 at 15:06 +0200, Angelo Dureghello wrote:
>>>> From: Angelo Dureghello <adureghello@baylibre.com>
>>>>
>>>> Add new IIO calibphase_delay documentation.
>>>>
>>>> The delay suffix is added to specify that the phase, generally in
>>>> radiants, is for this case (needed from ad7606) in nanoseconds.
> 
> ...
> 
>>>> +What:		/sys/bus/iio/devices/iio:deviceX/in_voltageY_calibphase_delay
>>>
>>> Not sure if I'm too convinced on the _delay suffix
>>>
>> Phase is measured in radians, not seconds, so it seems wrong to use it here.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_(waves)
>>
>> And the delay here is with respect to individual samples in a simultaneous
>> conversion without regard for a sampling frequency, so I don't see how we could
>> convert the time to radians in any meaningful way.
> 
> And how this delay is aplicable to the phase in the hardware? Sounds to me that
> HW has some meaningful way of such a conversion?
> 

It is a calibration to account for a phase difference between two input signals.
This is a simultaneous sampling ADC, so all channels normally sample at exactly
the same time. This phase delay calibration factor can introduce a small delay
on an individual channel so that it starts it's conversion some microseconds
after the others.

There is a nice diagram here:

https://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/ad7606c-18.pdf#%5B%7B%22num%22%3A113%2C%22gen%22%3A0%7D%2C%7B%22name%22%3A%22XYZ%22%7D%2C34%2C594%2C0%5D

To convert the phase delay to a phase angle and back would require also knowing
the frequency of the input voltage signals.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-30 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-29 13:06 [PATCH 0/5] iio: adc: add ad7606 calibration support Angelo Dureghello
2025-04-29 13:06 ` [PATCH 1/5] Documentation: ABI: IIO: add calibphase_delay documentation Angelo Dureghello
2025-04-30  5:40   ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-30 14:21     ` David Lechner
2025-04-30 14:45       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-04-30 14:56         ` David Lechner [this message]
2025-04-30 15:04           ` David Lechner
2025-05-01 12:33             ` Angelo Dureghello
2025-05-01 14:44               ` David Lechner
2025-05-04 15:04                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-04-29 13:06 ` [PATCH 2/5] iio: core: add ADC phase calibration definition Angelo Dureghello
2025-04-29 13:06 ` [PATCH 3/5] iio: adc: ad7606: add offset and phase calibration support Angelo Dureghello
2025-04-30 12:50   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-05-01 12:37     ` Angelo Dureghello
2025-04-30 15:36   ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-30 16:14     ` David Lechner
2025-04-30 18:33       ` David Lechner
2025-05-02  7:43         ` Nuno Sá
2025-04-29 13:06 ` [PATCH 4/5] dt-bindings: iio: adc: adi,ad7606: add gain " Angelo Dureghello
2025-04-29 14:56   ` Conor Dooley
2025-04-29 15:26   ` David Lechner
2025-04-29 20:45     ` Angelo Dureghello
2025-04-29 13:06 ` [PATCH 5/5] iio: adc: ad7606: " Angelo Dureghello
2025-04-29 22:34   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-05-01 13:49     ` Angelo Dureghello
2025-04-29 22:46   ` David Lechner
2025-05-01 13:35     ` Angelo Dureghello
2025-05-01 14:26       ` David Lechner

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