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* What is the meaning of PASID_MIN?
@ 2019-02-11 19:28 Matthew Wilcox
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  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Matthew Wilcox @ 2019-02-11 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ashok Raj, Lu Baolu, Kevin Tian, Liu Yi L, Peter Xu, Joerg Roedel
  Cc: iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA


I'm looking at commit 562831747f6299abd481b5b00bd4fa19d5c8a259
which fails to adequately explain why we can't use PASID 0.  Commit
af39507305fb83a5d3c475c2851f4d59545d8a18 also doesn't explain why PASID
0 is no longer usable for the intel-svm driver.

There are a load of simplifications that could be made to this, but I
don't know which ones to suggest without a clear understanding of the
problem you're actually trying to solve.

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* Re: What is the meaning of PASID_MIN?
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@ 2019-02-12  2:44   ` Lu Baolu
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  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Lu Baolu @ 2019-02-12  2:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Matthew Wilcox, Ashok Raj, Kevin Tian, Liu Yi L, Peter Xu,
	Joerg Roedel
  Cc: iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA

Hi,

On 2/12/19 3:28 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> 
> I'm looking at commit 562831747f6299abd481b5b00bd4fa19d5c8a259
> which fails to adequately explain why we can't use PASID 0.  Commit
> af39507305fb83a5d3c475c2851f4d59545d8a18 also doesn't explain why PASID
> 0 is no longer usable for the intel-svm driver.

Sorry that we didn't make it clear.

> 
> There are a load of simplifications that could be made to this, but I
> don't know which ones to suggest without a clear understanding of the
> problem you're actually trying to solve.
> 

PASID 0 has been reserved by Intel IOMMU driver for RID_PASID purpose.

VT-d scalable mode treats all address translation as PASID granularity.
For DMA requests-with-PASID, the PASID value in the DMA request will be
used. For DMA requests-without-PASID, VT-d will use a static PASID value
specified in the RID_PASID field of the context entry. PASID 0 has been
reserved for this usage for all devices.

(Please refer to 9.4 of the spec 3.0 for more details.)

Best regards,
Lu Baolu

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* Re: What is the meaning of PASID_MIN?
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@ 2019-02-12  3:02       ` Peter Xu
  2019-02-12  3:13         ` Lu Baolu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Peter Xu @ 2019-02-12  3:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lu Baolu
  Cc: Kevin Tian, Joerg Roedel, Ashok Raj, Matthew Wilcox,
	iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 10:44:23AM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 2/12/19 3:28 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > 
> > I'm looking at commit 562831747f6299abd481b5b00bd4fa19d5c8a259
> > which fails to adequately explain why we can't use PASID 0.  Commit
> > af39507305fb83a5d3c475c2851f4d59545d8a18 also doesn't explain why PASID
> > 0 is no longer usable for the intel-svm driver.
> 
> Sorry that we didn't make it clear.
> 
> > 
> > There are a load of simplifications that could be made to this, but I
> > don't know which ones to suggest without a clear understanding of the
> > problem you're actually trying to solve.
> > 
> 
> PASID 0 has been reserved by Intel IOMMU driver for RID_PASID purpose.
> 
> VT-d scalable mode treats all address translation as PASID granularity.
> For DMA requests-with-PASID, the PASID value in the DMA request will be
> used. For DMA requests-without-PASID, VT-d will use a static PASID value
> specified in the RID_PASID field of the context entry. PASID 0 has been
> reserved for this usage for all devices.
> 
> (Please refer to 9.4 of the spec 3.0 for more details.)

Hi, Baolu,

I have a similar confusion.

If PASID==0 is reserved for requests-without-PASID, then does it mean
that for each scalable mode context entry the RID_PASID field will
always be zero?  Or say, since we already have the per-context-entry
RID_PASID field which seems to be configurable, why we still need to
reserve the PASID==0?

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu

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* Re: What is the meaning of PASID_MIN?
  2019-02-12  3:02       ` Peter Xu
@ 2019-02-12  3:13         ` Lu Baolu
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Lu Baolu @ 2019-02-12  3:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Xu
  Cc: Kevin Tian, Joerg Roedel, Ashok Raj, Matthew Wilcox,
	iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA


On 2/12/19 11:02 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 10:44:23AM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 2/12/19 3:28 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm looking at commit 562831747f6299abd481b5b00bd4fa19d5c8a259
>>> which fails to adequately explain why we can't use PASID 0.  Commit
>>> af39507305fb83a5d3c475c2851f4d59545d8a18 also doesn't explain why PASID
>>> 0 is no longer usable for the intel-svm driver.
>>
>> Sorry that we didn't make it clear.
>>
>>>
>>> There are a load of simplifications that could be made to this, but I
>>> don't know which ones to suggest without a clear understanding of the
>>> problem you're actually trying to solve.
>>>
>>
>> PASID 0 has been reserved by Intel IOMMU driver for RID_PASID purpose.
>>
>> VT-d scalable mode treats all address translation as PASID granularity.
>> For DMA requests-with-PASID, the PASID value in the DMA request will be
>> used. For DMA requests-without-PASID, VT-d will use a static PASID value
>> specified in the RID_PASID field of the context entry. PASID 0 has been
>> reserved for this usage for all devices.
>>
>> (Please refer to 9.4 of the spec 3.0 for more details.)
> 
> Hi, Baolu,

Hi Peter,

> 
> I have a similar confusion.
> 
> If PASID==0 is reserved for requests-without-PASID, then does it mean
> that for each scalable mode context entry the RID_PASID field will
> always be zero?

Yes.

>  Or say, since we already have the per-context-entry
> RID_PASID field which seems to be configurable, why we still need to
> reserve the PASID==0?

We decided to set RID_PASID always to 0. This will make things simple
especially for virtual IOMMU case. It will also be compatible with other
arch's which reserves PASID 0 for legacy translation.

Best regards,
Lu Baolu

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