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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki"
	<rafael-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 56/79] docs: Documentation/*.txt: rename all ReST files to *.rst
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 19:11:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190423171158.GG12232@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190423103053.07cf2149-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 10:30:53AM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:01:32 +0200
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> > But yes, I have 0 motivation to learn or abide by rst. It simply doesn't
> > give me anything in return. There is no upside, only worse text files :/
> 
> So I believe it gives even you one thing in return: documentation that is
> more accessible for both readers and authors.

I know I'm an odd duck; but no. They're _less_ accessible for me, as
both a reader and author. They look 'funny' when read as a text file
(the only way it makes sense to read them; I spend 99% of my time on a
computer looking at monospace text interfaces; mutt, vim and console, in
that approximate order).

When writing, I now have to be bothered about this format crap over just
trying to write a coherent document.

Look at crap like this:

"The memory allocations via :c:func:`kmalloc`, :c:func:`vmalloc`,
:c:func:`kmem_cache_alloc` and"

That should've been written like:

"The memory allocations via kmalloc(), vmalloc(), kmem_cache_alloc()
and"

Heck, that paragraph isn't even properly flowed.

Then there's the endless stuck ':' key, and the mysterious "''" because
\" isn't a character, oh wait.

Bah..

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 56/79] docs: Documentation/*.txt: rename all ReST files to *.rst
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 19:11:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190423171158.GG12232@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190423171158.-Q2lDDAQcVegyMn5-NmH2LmgMYAe-9EBpaIhCG0AAI4@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190423103053.07cf2149@lwn.net>

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 10:30:53AM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:01:32 +0200
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > But yes, I have 0 motivation to learn or abide by rst. It simply doesn't
> > give me anything in return. There is no upside, only worse text files :/
> 
> So I believe it gives even you one thing in return: documentation that is
> more accessible for both readers and authors.

I know I'm an odd duck; but no. They're _less_ accessible for me, as
both a reader and author. They look 'funny' when read as a text file
(the only way it makes sense to read them; I spend 99% of my time on a
computer looking at monospace text interfaces; mutt, vim and console, in
that approximate order).

When writing, I now have to be bothered about this format crap over just
trying to write a coherent document.

Look at crap like this:

"The memory allocations via :c:func:`kmalloc`, :c:func:`vmalloc`,
:c:func:`kmem_cache_alloc` and"

That should've been written like:

"The memory allocations via kmalloc(), vmalloc(), kmem_cache_alloc()
and"

Heck, that paragraph isn't even properly flowed.

Then there's the endless stuck ':' key, and the mysterious "''" because
\" isn't a character, oh wait.

Bah..
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     [not found] <cover.1555938375.git.mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
     [not found] ` <cover.1555938375.git.mchehab+samsung-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-22 13:27   ` [PATCH v2 56/79] docs: Documentation/*.txt: rename all ReST files to *.rst Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-22 13:27     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]     ` <cda57849a6462ccc72dcd360b30068ab6a1021c4.1555938376.git.mchehab+samsung-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-22 16:37       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-04-22 16:37         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-04-23  8:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-23  8:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]         ` <20190423083135.GA11158-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-23 12:55           ` Mike Snitzer
2019-04-23 12:55             ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]             ` <20190423125519.GA7104-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-23 13:01               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-23 13:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                 ` <20190423130132.GT4038-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-23 13:21                   ` Mike Snitzer
2019-04-23 13:21                     ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]                     ` <20190423132100.GB7132-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-23 15:07                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-23 15:07                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-23 16:30                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-04-23 16:30                     ` Jonathan Corbet
     [not found]                     ` <20190423103053.07cf2149-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-23 17:11                       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-04-23 17:11                         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                         ` <20190423171158.GG12232-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-23 17:20                           ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-23 17:20                             ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                             ` <20190423172006.GD16353-Jj63ApZU6fQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-23 20:05                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-23 20:05                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]                                 ` <20190423170409.7b1370ac-qA1ZUp+OV9c@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-23 21:38                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-23 21:38                                     ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                     ` <20190423213816.GE16353-Jj63ApZU6fQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-23 22:06                                       ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-04-23 22:06                                         ` Jonathan Corbet
     [not found]                                         ` <20190423160640.70c9703f-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-24  9:19                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-24  9:19                                             ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-24  6:52                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24  6:52                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-06 19:50                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-24 10:40                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-24 10:40                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]                                         ` <20190423232325.679c100b-qA1ZUp+OV9c@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-24 14:54                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-24 14:54                                             ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                             ` <20190424145410.GE30142-Jj63ApZU6fQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-24 16:36                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-24 16:36                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-23 17:53                           ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-04-23 17:53                             ` Jonathan Corbet
     [not found]                             ` <20190423115349.589c3d50-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-23 18:21                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-23 18:21                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-23 20:19                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-04-23 20:19                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]                                 ` <20190423171944.7ac6db54-qA1ZUp+OV9c@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-23 20:34                                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-04-23 20:34                                     ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-04-23 17:13                     ` Wes Turner
2019-04-23 17:13                       ` Wes Turner
     [not found]                       ` <CACfEFw-viqBH7tDJ8t_um5erPFnRmzuztux86+3XR0+e=YcYYA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-23 17:41                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-23 17:41                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-23 17:28                     ` Wes Turner
2019-04-23 17:28                       ` Wes Turner

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