Linux IOMMU Development
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jason Gunthorpe via iommu <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Allen Hubbe <allenbh@gmail.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>, Marc Zygnier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-ntb@googlegroups.com,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	Megha Dey <megha.dey@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 21/32] NTB/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc()
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 10:45:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211202144514.GQ4670@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YajW6veanK4GZUkv@kroah.com>

On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 03:23:38PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 09:55:02AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > Further, there is no reason why IMS should be reserved exclusively for
> > VFIO! Why shouldn't the cdev be able to use IMS vectors too? It is
> > just a feature of the PCI device like MSI. If the queue has a PASID it
> > can use IDXD's IMS.
> 
> No, sorry, but a cdev is not for anything resembling any real resource
> at all.

My point is that when the user asks the driver to allocate a queue
through a cdev ioctl it should be able to get the queue attached to an
IMS, today it can only get a queue attached to a MSI.

> It is ONLY for the /dev/NODE interface that controls the character
> device api to userspace.  The struct device involved in it is ONLY for
> that, nothing else.  Any attempt to add things to it will be gleefully
> rejected.

I agree with you!
 
> > If we really need a 2nd struct device to turn on IMS then, I'd suggest
> > picking the cdev, as it keeps IMS and its allocator inside the IDXD
> > PCIe driver and not in the VFIO world.
> 
> No!  Again, a cdev is to control the lifespan/lifecycle of the /dev/NODE
> only.  Anything other than that is not ok to do at all.

Said the same thing in a prior email - which is why I think the only
logical choice here is to make IMS work on the pci_device

FWIW I feel the same way about the VFIO mdev - its *ONLY* purpose is
to control the lifecycle and we are close to stripping away all the
other abuses using it for other things.

Jason
_______________________________________________
iommu mailing list
iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/iommu

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-02 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20211126230957.239391799@linutronix.de>
     [not found] ` <20211126232735.547996838@linutronix.de>
     [not found]   ` <7daba0e2-73a3-4980-c3a5-a71f6b597b22@deltatee.com>
     [not found]     ` <874k7ueldt.ffs@tglx>
     [not found]       ` <6ba084d6-2b26-7c86-4526-8fcd3d921dfd@deltatee.com>
     [not found]         ` <87ilwacwp8.ffs@tglx>
     [not found]           ` <d6f13729-1b83-fa7d-3f0d-98d4e3f7a2aa@deltatee.com>
     [not found]             ` <87v909bf2k.ffs@tglx>
     [not found]               ` <20211130202800.GE4670@nvidia.com>
     [not found]                 ` <87o861banv.ffs@tglx>
     [not found]                   ` <20211201001748.GF4670@nvidia.com>
2021-12-01 10:16                     ` [patch 21/32] NTB/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 13:00                       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-01 17:35                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:14                           ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-01 18:46                             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 20:21                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02  0:01                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 13:55                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-02 14:23                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-02 14:45                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu [this message]
2021-12-02 19:25                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 20:00                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-02 22:31                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-03  0:37                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-03 15:07                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-03 16:41                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-04 14:20                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-05 14:16                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 14:43                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-06 15:47                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 17:00                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-06 20:28                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 21:06                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-06 22:21                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 14:19                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-06 15:06                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09  6:26                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  9:03                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 12:17                                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09 15:57                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  7:37                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  5:41                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  5:47                                     ` Jason Wang
2021-12-01 16:28                       ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 18:41                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:47                           ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 20:25                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 21:21                               ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 21:44                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 21:49                                   ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 22:03                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 22:53                                       ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 23:57                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09  5:23                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  8:37                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 12:31                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09 16:21                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-09 20:32                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 20:58                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-09 22:09                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  0:26                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  7:29                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:13                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11  8:06                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:39                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-10 19:00                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11  7:44                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-11 13:04                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12  1:56                                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12 20:55                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12 23:37                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-13  7:50                                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-11  7:52                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12  0:12                                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12  2:14                                                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12 20:50                                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12 23:42                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-10  7:36                                             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:30                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-12-12  6:44                                               ` Mika Penttilä
2021-12-12 23:27                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20211202144514.GQ4670@nvidia.com \
    --to=iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=alex.williamson@redhat.com \
    --cc=allenbh@gmail.com \
    --cc=ashok.raj@intel.com \
    --cc=borntraeger@de.ibm.com \
    --cc=dave.jiang@intel.com \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=hca@linux.ibm.com \
    --cc=helgaas@kernel.org \
    --cc=jgg@nvidia.com \
    --cc=jroedel@suse.de \
    --cc=kevin.tian@intel.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-ntb@googlegroups.com \
    --cc=linux-pci@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-s390@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=logang@deltatee.com \
    --cc=maz@kernel.org \
    --cc=megha.dey@intel.com \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=x86@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox