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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>, iommu@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: mapping files for iommufd
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 15:40:05 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240812184005.GQ8378@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a745cabd-5e38-4242-b3b1-da02c1e670a8@oracle.com>

On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 02:09:11PM -0400, Steven Sistare wrote:
> I have been using QEMU to test legacy vfio vs iommufd compatibility vfio.
> I find that backing guest memory with an ext4 file /root/guest.ram
> succeeds for legacy but fails for iommufd, with EFAULT in
> IOMMU_IOAS_MAP -> ... __get_user_pages -> check_vma_flags.  Ditto for a
> hugetlbfs file.  This is with unmodified kernels, no live update changes.
> 
> Is this expected?

Yes - I'm surprised that VFIO is not failing though?

/*
 * Writing to file-backed mappings which require folio dirty tracking using GUP
 * is a fundamentally broken operation, as kernel write access to GUP mappings
 * do not adhere to the semantics expected by a file system.
 *
 * Consider the following scenario:-
 *
 * 1. A folio is written to via GUP which write-faults the memory, notifying
 *    the file system and dirtying the folio.
 * 2. Later, writeback is triggered, resulting in the folio being cleaned and
 *    the PTE being marked read-only.
 * 3. The GUP caller writes to the folio, as it is mapped read/write via the
 *    direct mapping.
 * 4. The GUP caller, now done with the page, unpins it and sets it dirty
 *    (though it does not have to).
 *
 * This results in both data being written to a folio without writenotify, and
 * the folio being dirtied unexpectedly (if the caller decides to do so).
 */
static bool writable_file_mapping_allowed(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
					  unsigned long gup_flags)
{

Why doesn't that fail in the VFIO case? I didn't notice anything
special there that would make it work???

I recall we talked about allowing old stuff to keep working but I
don't see any implementation of that?

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-12 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-12 18:09 mapping files for iommufd Steven Sistare
2024-08-12 18:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-08-12 18:56   ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-12 21:05     ` Alex Williamson
2024-08-13 14:23       ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-13 14:36         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-13 15:13           ` Steven Sistare

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