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From: Dmytro Maluka <dmaluka@chromium.org>
To: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: iommu@lists.linux.dev, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"Vineeth Pillai (Google)" <vineeth@bitbyteword.org>,
	Aashish Sharma <aashish@aashishsharma.net>,
	Grzegorz Jaszczyk <jaszczyk@chromium.org>,
	Chuanxiao Dong <chuanxiao.dong@intel.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel IOMMU] Question about memory ordering in context/PASID entry updates
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2025 15:09:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aTLntWFSADz81_NF@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b9c23895-ae8f-4c71-a0b4-5956e2719901@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, Dec 05, 2025 at 01:32:51PM +0800, Baolu Lu wrote:
> We didn't implement that primarily because we hadn't encountered any
> real issues, operating under the assumption that the root/context
> entries population is completed before DMA translation is really
> enabled.
> 
> However, that assumption is incorrect, as users can change a device's
> default domain in VT-d legacy mode. This action triggers a context entry
> change while DMA translation is already running. So, yes, this is a bug.

I see, thanks. I might try to prepare a patch, though it seems not
exactly trivial to fix this all over the code. Roughly seems we could
just modify the context_set_*() helpers to use READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE
similarly to pasid_set_*(), plus add barrier() before
context_set_present() and pasid_set_present() calls, plus maybe we
should also correspondingly fix updating root table entries in
iommu_context_addr() etc.

BTW why exactly I'm concerned about this: even if no one has encountered
any functional issues caused by this, DMA isolation is also a security
thing, and an attacker might be able to exploit this (albeit only in
case those operations actually happen to be reordered by the compiler in
a dangerous way in the given kernel build).

> as users can change a device's
> default domain in VT-d legacy mode.

Not in scalable mode? I'd assume users can change it in both, and I
don't immediately see anything in the code that would limit it to legacy
mode only.

> Thanks,
> baolu

  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-05 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-04 16:49 [Intel IOMMU] Question about memory ordering in context/PASID entry updates Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-05  5:32 ` Baolu Lu
2025-12-05 14:09   ` Dmytro Maluka [this message]
2025-12-07  3:35     ` Baolu Lu

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