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From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
	Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>,
	Daniel Mentz <danielmentz@google.com>,
	Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rc v2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Fix inconsistent ATS state tracking
Date: Wed, 6 May 2026 22:03:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <afu6xq5djv_svAJf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <afuiX-lXJOSURB4H@google.com>

On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 08:19:43PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 06:46:30AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Tue, May 05, 2026 at 10:32:40PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> > > The PF shows no ATS Cap:
> > 
> 
>  3. Finally, if the PCIe spec actually allows VFs to enable ATS even
>     when the PF's ATS is disabled (but is ATS capable), then we might
>     need to ensure the PF is initialized with a valid STU even when its
>     ATS Enable bit is disabled, to allow enable_pci_ats() to pass for VFs
> 

Correction: This is what happens currently in the happy path, the STU is
set and we only clear the enable bit in the ATS control reg in 
pci_ats_disable.

> I'll dig into the PCIe ATS spec to confirm regarding PF/VF dependencies.
> 
> But from an initial understanding, I believe 3 is the correct way to go.
> If a device is ATS capable (i.e. PF & VF both present ATS capability),
> We shall allow PFs to attach to Identity domain and disable ATS while
> while allowing VFs to enable and use ATS.

The kernel seems to allow this today, during PF probe the PF's STU is
set regardless of it's ATS being enabled. Thus, a VF can use ATS even if
it's PF disables ATS. (Given that the ATS capability is presented
uniformly in both).

We are seeing a weird case due to a pci_ats_quirk coming into action.

Thanks
Praan

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-06 22:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-04 16:38 [PATCH rc v2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Fix inconsistent ATS state tracking Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-04 18:01 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-04 19:33   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-04 20:03     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-04 20:23     ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-04 20:29       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-04 20:51         ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-04 20:40       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-04 20:54         ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-05 16:11     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-05 20:21       ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-05 21:23         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-05 21:44           ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-05 22:06             ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-06 20:44         ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-05 21:14       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-05 22:32         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-06  9:46           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-06 20:19             ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-06 22:03               ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2026-05-06 21:57             ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-06 22:04               ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-09 17:14                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-11 12:07                   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-11 14:16                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-11 16:07                       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-11 16:30                         ` David Matlack
2026-05-11 16:57                           ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-11 17:03                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-06 22:20               ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07 20:12                 ` Pranjal Shrivastava

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