From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>,
Daniel Mentz <danielmentz@google.com>,
Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rc v2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Fix inconsistent ATS state tracking
Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 16:07:10 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <agH-rkumGS1vX4dv@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260511141607.GN9285@ziepe.ca>
On Mon, May 11, 2026 at 11:16:07AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2026 at 12:07:04PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> >
> > > Thus the quirk should cover the VFs too and also disable ATS there.
> >
> > I observe the quirk does apply VFs but after the VF's iommu attach
> > because of how the pci_iov_add_virtfn() is written:
>
> Ah, that seems to be the issue then :\
>
Yea :/ we need something to ensure that quirk orders don't impact sanity
> > While, we can move this quirk to be in fixup_early / fixup_header.
> > I still think we should add checking the PF->ats_cap within
> > pci_ats_supported before bailing out happily (return 0) for VFs.
>
> I feel like this should stay in prepare... supported is a differerent
> thing. Maybe the quirk should be more directly tied to ats_supported
> instead of whatever it is doing now? The ACS code calls directly into
> quirks for example?
>
> > > So I still think my original suggestion is appropriate, fail to probe
> > > the iommu device if ats prepare fails (serious PCI layer bug, like
> > > broken quirks) and fail to attach the domain of ats enable fails
> > > (serious internal kernel malfunction since enable must succeed if
> > > prepare succeeded)
> >
> > I’m concerned that refusing to attach a device because it isn't ATS
> > capable is bit too aggressive.
>
> Sorry, I was thinking prepare fails because it *fails*, prepare
> succeeds if ATS is just not supported and won't ever be enabled.
>
> But these odd cases where prepare sees ATS as available but can't
> prepare it should fail and that should fail to probe the device.
> That's exposing some kind of kernel or device bug that someone should
> be fixing - exactly like you discovered here.
This is actually a little weird/funny...
For PF: pci_prepare_ats fails as it sees a null ats_cap (quirk applied)
and fails at pci_ats_supported().
For VF: pci_prepare_ats bails out early if (dev->is_virtfn):
/**
* pci_prepare_ats - Setup the PS for ATS
* @dev: the PCI device
* @ps: the IOMMU page shift
*
* This must be done by the IOMMU driver on the PF before any VFs are created to
* ensure that the VF can have ATS enabled.
*
* Returns 0 on success, or negative on failure.
*/
int pci_prepare_ats(struct pci_dev *dev, int ps)
{
u16 ctrl;
if (!pci_ats_supported(dev))
return -EINVAL;
if (WARN_ON(dev->ats_enabled))
return -EBUSY;
if (ps < PCI_ATS_MIN_STU)
return -EINVAL;
if (dev->is_virtfn) <---- THIS
return 0;
dev->ats_stu = ps;
ctrl = PCI_ATS_CTRL_STU(dev->ats_stu - PCI_ATS_MIN_STU);
pci_write_config_word(dev, dev->ats_cap + PCI_ATS_CTRL, ctrl);
return 0;
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(pci_prepare_ats);
Ideally, in such cases I'd want VFs to fail at pci_ats_supported itself
We could either:
1. Add this directly in pci_ats_supported:
if (dev->is_virtfn && !pci_ats_supported(pci_physfn(dev)))
return false;
OR 2. we could have pci_ats_supported call into some ats quirk helper.
We need pci_ats_supported to fail here because if we contain the failure
in pci_prepare_ats, we'll see pci_ats_supported return success in attach
which will make arm_smmu_v3 believe that ATS is supported..
Thanks,
Praan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-11 16:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-04 16:38 [PATCH rc v2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Fix inconsistent ATS state tracking Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-04 18:01 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-04 19:33 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-04 20:03 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-04 20:23 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-04 20:29 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-04 20:51 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-04 20:40 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-04 20:54 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-05 16:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-05 20:21 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-05 21:23 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-05 21:44 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-05 22:06 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-06 20:44 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-05 21:14 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-05 22:32 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-06 9:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-06 20:19 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-06 22:03 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-06 21:57 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-06 22:04 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-09 17:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-11 12:07 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-11 14:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-11 16:07 ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2026-05-11 16:30 ` David Matlack
2026-05-11 16:57 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-11 17:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-06 22:20 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07 20:12 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
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