From: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
"Tested-by : Yi Lai" <yi1.lai@intel.com>,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, security@kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] iommu/sva: Invalidate KVA range on kernel TLB flush
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 14:34:04 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f58a6825-e53a-4751-97cc-0891052936f1@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250715122504.GK2067380@nvidia.com>
On 7/15/25 20:25, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 01:55:01PM +0800, Baolu Lu wrote:
>> Yes, the mm (struct mm of processes that are bound to devices) list is
>> an unbounded list and can theoretically grow indefinitely. This results
>> in an unpredictable critical region.
>
> Every MM has a unique PASID so I don't see how you can avoid this.
>
>> @@ -654,6 +656,9 @@ struct iommu_ops {
>>
>> int (*def_domain_type)(struct device *dev);
>>
>> + void (*paging_cache_invalidate)(struct iommu_device *dev,
>> + unsigned long start, unsigned long end);
>
> How would you even implement this in a driver?
>
> You either flush the whole iommu, in which case who needs a rage, or
> the driver has to iterate over the PASID list, in which case it
> doesn't really improve the situation.
The Intel iommu driver supports flushing all SVA PASIDs with a single
request in the invalidation queue. I am not sure if other IOMMU
implementations also support this, so you are right, it doesn't
generally improve the situation.
>
> If this is a concern I think the better answer is to do a defered free
> like the mm can sometimes do where we thread the page tables onto a
> linked list, flush the CPU cache and push it all into a work which
> will do the iommu flush before actually freeing the memory.
Is it a workable solution to use schedule_work() to queue the KVA cache
invalidation as a work item in the system workqueue? By doing so, we
wouldn't need the spinlock to protect the list anymore.
Perhaps we would need another interface, perhaps named
iommu_sva_flush_kva_inv_wq(), to guarantee that all flush work is
completed before actually freeing the pages.
> One of the KPTI options might be easier at that point..
>
> Jason
Thanks,
baolu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-16 6:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-09 6:28 [PATCH v2 1/1] iommu/sva: Invalidate KVA range on kernel TLB flush Lu Baolu
2025-07-09 15:29 ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-10 2:14 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-10 2:55 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-10 12:53 ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-10 13:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-10 15:26 ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-11 2:46 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-11 2:54 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-11 8:17 ` Yu Zhang
2025-07-24 3:01 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-28 17:36 ` Yu Zhang
2025-07-29 2:08 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-24 3:06 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-11 2:49 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-10 3:02 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-10 8:11 ` Yu Zhang
2025-07-10 8:15 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-10 9:37 ` Yu Zhang
2025-07-10 13:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-10 15:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-11 3:09 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-11 8:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-16 11:57 ` David Laight
2025-07-17 1:47 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-11 3:00 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-11 4:01 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-11 8:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-11 11:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-15 5:55 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-15 12:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-16 6:34 ` Baolu Lu [this message]
2025-07-16 12:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-17 1:43 ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-17 11:50 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-07-11 11:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-16 10:54 ` Yi Liu
2025-07-17 1:51 ` Baolu Lu
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