Starting a Wiki for Syzkaller Bug Fixing Resources

Starting a Wiki for Syzkaller Bug Fixing Resources

[Esme Xuan Lim]

Hi there,

Having been on the bug fixing mentorship, I've been collating a bunch of
resources that helped me as I was going. I've been thinking that there
might be a big gap in resources in where interns might be looking and
was keen on trying to put one together. Given the current conversation
Greg has brought up about syzkaller bugs needing more attention, I
figured this could help fix it if interns are the only ones available
for this task.

I think it'd help the kernel mentees current and future sink their teeth
quicker into fixing bugs, and less into helping themselves learn what is
needed. This appears to be a big gap that would really help if it were
filled. Resources are heavily abundant for the Linux kernel, but a good
level of curation and maintained resources could help with bug fixing.
Resources look old, but are incredibly insightful. I would have skipped
looking at these resources given my experience with more modern
frameworks and toolkits (which is that it would be best to avoid
outdated ones as APIs change very quickly - but this is not the case
with the kernel)

I've got links and things but I've been wondering if it made sense to
build on the Kernel Mentees or to build a wiki (and host it) on
something more modern like github.

I'd love to hear suggestions for how best to go about this, and if
anyone would like to contribute to it too.

Thanks,
Esme


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Re: Starting a Wiki for Syzkaller Bug Fixing Resources

[Dmitry Vyukov via Linux-kernel-mentees]

On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:50 PM Esme Xuan Lim <esmethedev@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> Having been on the bug fixing mentorship, I've been collating a bunch of
> resources that helped me as I was going. I've been thinking that there
> might be a big gap in resources in where interns might be looking and
> was keen on trying to put one together. Given the current conversation
> Greg has brought up about syzkaller bugs needing more attention, I
> figured this could help fix it if interns are the only ones available
> for this task.
>
> I think it'd help the kernel mentees current and future sink their teeth
> quicker into fixing bugs, and less into helping themselves learn what is
> needed. This appears to be a big gap that would really help if it were
> filled. Resources are heavily abundant for the Linux kernel, but a good
> level of curation and maintained resources could help with bug fixing.
> Resources look old, but are incredibly insightful. I would have skipped
> looking at these resources given my experience with more modern
> frameworks and toolkits (which is that it would be best to avoid
> outdated ones as APIs change very quickly - but this is not the case
> with the kernel)
>
> I've got links and things but I've been wondering if it made sense to
> build on the Kernel Mentees or to build a wiki (and host it) on
> something more modern like github.
>
> I'd love to hear suggestions for how best to go about this, and if
> anyone would like to contribute to it too.

Hi Esme,

I totally agree.

FWIW I am ready to host it at:
https://github.com/google/syzkaller/tree/master/docs/linux
I guess it won't be that much syzkaller-specific, so I don't know how
much you want to host it in the syzkaller repo.
Otherwise it would be useful to at least announce on the syzkaller@
mailing list and/or add a link somewhere in the docs.
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Starting a Wiki for Syzkaller Bug Fixing Resources

[Kurt Manucredo]

On  Wed, 28 Apr 2021 04:50:18 +0800  Esme Xuan Lim <esmethedev@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Having been on the bug fixing mentorship, I've been collating a bunch of
> resources that helped me as I was going. I've been thinking that there
> might be a big gap in resources in where interns might be looking and
> was keen on trying to put one together. Given the current conversation
> Greg has brought up about syzkaller bugs needing more attention, I
> figured this could help fix it if interns are the only ones available
> for this task.
> 
> I think it'd help the kernel mentees current and future sink their teeth
> quicker into fixing bugs, and less into helping themselves learn what is
> needed. This appears to be a big gap that would really help if it were
> filled. Resources are heavily abundant for the Linux kernel, but a good
> level of curation and maintained resources could help with bug fixing.
> Resources look old, but are incredibly insightful. I would have skipped
> looking at these resources given my experience with more modern
> frameworks and toolkits (which is that it would be best to avoid
> outdated ones as APIs change very quickly - but this is not the case
> with the kernel)
> 
> I've got links and things but I've been wondering if it made sense to
> build on the Kernel Mentees or to build a wiki (and host it) on
> something more modern like github.
> 
> I'd love to hear suggestions for how best to go about this, and if
> anyone would like to contribute to it too.
> 
I would love to contribute. I've started my blog on:

https://fuzzybritches0.github.io/

If any of these entries I made are helpful, I'd love to help you
incorporate them into your wiki. I'd also love to get feedback on these
entries. Count me in.

thanks and kind regards

Kurt Manucredo

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Re: Starting a Wiki for Syzkaller Bug Fixing Resources

[Esme Xuan Lim]

On 28/04/2021 21:13, Kurt Manucredo wrote:
> On  Wed, 28 Apr 2021 04:50:18 +0800  Esme Xuan Lim <esmethedev@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Having been on the bug fixing mentorship, I've been collating a bunch of
>> resources that helped me as I was going. I've been thinking that there
>> might be a big gap in resources in where interns might be looking and
>> was keen on trying to put one together. Given the current conversation
>> Greg has brought up about syzkaller bugs needing more attention, I
>> figured this could help fix it if interns are the only ones available
>> for this task.
>>
>> I think it'd help the kernel mentees current and future sink their teeth
>> quicker into fixing bugs, and less into helping themselves learn what is
>> needed. This appears to be a big gap that would really help if it were
>> filled. Resources are heavily abundant for the Linux kernel, but a good
>> level of curation and maintained resources could help with bug fixing.
>> Resources look old, but are incredibly insightful. I would have skipped
>> looking at these resources given my experience with more modern
>> frameworks and toolkits (which is that it would be best to avoid
>> outdated ones as APIs change very quickly - but this is not the case
>> with the kernel)
>>
>> I've got links and things but I've been wondering if it made sense to
>> build on the Kernel Mentees or to build a wiki (and host it) on
>> something more modern like github.
>>
>> I'd love to hear suggestions for how best to go about this, and if
>> anyone would like to contribute to it too.
>>
> I would love to contribute. I've started my blog on:
>
> https://fuzzybritches0.github.io/
>
> If any of these entries I made are helpful, I'd love to help you
> incorporate them into your wiki. I'd also love to get feedback on these
> entries. Count me in.
>
> thanks and kind regards
>
> Kurt Manucredo
>
(Resent to the mailing list; first email went only to Kurt - that was a mistake)

Hey Kurt,

If you join the discord, I guess we're having a fairly casual
conversation of how things should go. I'm writing up the structure of
the wiki at the moment and I'll have it up for pull requests in a bit:)

Thanks

Esme

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Re: Starting a Wiki for Syzkaller Bug Fixing Resources

[Kurt Manucredo]

On  Wed, 28 Apr 2021 21:55:06 +0800  Esme Xuan Lim <esmethedev@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 28/04/2021 21:13, Kurt Manucredo wrote:
> > On  Wed, 28 Apr 2021 04:50:18 +0800  Esme Xuan Lim <esmethedev@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> Having been on the bug fixing mentorship, I've been collating a bunch of
> >> resources that helped me as I was going. I've been thinking that there
> >> might be a big gap in resources in where interns might be looking and
> >> was keen on trying to put one together. Given the current conversation
> >> Greg has brought up about syzkaller bugs needing more attention, I
> >> figured this could help fix it if interns are the only ones available
> >> for this task.
> >>
> >> I think it'd help the kernel mentees current and future sink their teeth
> >> quicker into fixing bugs, and less into helping themselves learn what is
> >> needed. This appears to be a big gap that would really help if it were
> >> filled. Resources are heavily abundant for the Linux kernel, but a good
> >> level of curation and maintained resources could help with bug fixing.
> >> Resources look old, but are incredibly insightful. I would have skipped
> >> looking at these resources given my experience with more modern
> >> frameworks and toolkits (which is that it would be best to avoid
> >> outdated ones as APIs change very quickly - but this is not the case
> >> with the kernel)
> >>
> >> I've got links and things but I've been wondering if it made sense to
> >> build on the Kernel Mentees or to build a wiki (and host it) on
> >> something more modern like github.
> >>
> >> I'd love to hear suggestions for how best to go about this, and if
> >> anyone would like to contribute to it too.
> >>
> > I would love to contribute. I've started my blog on:
> >
> > https://fuzzybritches0.github.io/
> >
> > If any of these entries I made are helpful, I'd love to help you
> > incorporate them into your wiki. I'd also love to get feedback on these
> > entries. Count me in.
> >
> > thanks and kind regards
> >
> > Kurt Manucredo
> >
> (Resent to the mailing list; first email went only to Kurt - that was a mistake)
> 
> Hey Kurt,
> 
> If you join the discord, I guess we're having a fairly casual
> conversation of how things should go. I'm writing up the structure of
> the wiki at the moment and I'll have it up for pull requests in a bit:)
> 
I've joined discord and the dedicated channel, my username is
fuzzybritches. I hope I'm doing everything right, I'm new to discord.

kind regards

Kurt Manucredo
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