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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	kevin.tian@intel.com, will@kernel.org, joro@8bytes.org,
	suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com, robin.murphy@arm.com,
	dwmw2@infradead.org, baolu.lu@linux.intel.com, shuah@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, eric.auger@redhat.com,
	jean-philippe@linaro.org, mdf@kernel.org, mshavit@google.com,
	shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com, yi.l.liu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/19] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_SET/UNSET_VDEV_ID ioctl
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 11:58:08 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240927145808.GB4568@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zva_nFXZgT4MEfDg@google.com>

On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 02:22:20PM +0000, Mostafa Saleh wrote:

> > We don't support multi SID through this interface, at least in this
> > version.
> > 
> > To do multi-sid you have to inform the VM of all the different pSIDs
> > the device has and then setup the vSID/pSID translation to map them
> > all to the HW invalidation logic.
> 
> Why would the VM need to know the pSID? 

It doesn't need to know the pSID exactly, but it needs to know all the
pSIDs that exist and have them be labeled with vSIDs.

With cmdq direct assignment the VM has to issue an ATS invalidation
for each and every physical device using its vSID. There is no HW path
to handle a 1:N v/p SID relationship.

> Ah, I thought IOMMUFD would be used instead of VFIO_TYPE1*, which should cover
> platform devices (VFIO-platform) or am I missing something?

It does work with platform, but AFAIK nobody is interested in that so
it hasn't been any focus. Enabling multi-sid nesting, sub stream ids,
etc is some additional work I think.

But what I mean is the really hard use case for the vSID/pSID mapping
is ATS invalidation and you won't use ATS invalidation on platform so
multi-sid likely doesn't matter.

STE/CD invalidation could possibly be pushed down through the
per-domain ioctl and replicated to all domain attachments. We don't
have code in the series to do that, but it could work from a uAPI
perspective.

> If possible, can the UAPI be designed with this in mind, even if not
> implemented now?

It is reasonable to ask. I think things are extensible enough. I'd
imagine we can add a flag 'secondary ID' and then a new field
'secondary ID index' to the vdev operations when someone wants to take
this on.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-27 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 149+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-27 16:59 [PATCH v2 00/19] iommufd: Add VIOMMU infrastructure (Part-1) Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] iommufd: Reorder struct forward declarations Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 15:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMUFD_OBJ_VIOMMU and IOMMU_VIOMMU_ALLOC ioctl Nicolin Chen
2024-09-01  2:39   ` Baolu Lu
2024-09-02  5:27     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-04 16:26       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 17:29         ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-04 23:37           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05  3:07             ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-12  3:39             ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-15 21:10               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 15:53   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 17:10     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 17:41       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 18:04         ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] iommu: Pass in a viommu pointer to domain_alloc_user op Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 15:54   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 17:19     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] iommufd: Allow pt_id to carry viommu_id for IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 15:56   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-26  8:50   ` Yi Liu
2024-09-26 20:10     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27  0:43       ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-27  1:25         ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27  2:23           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-27  2:57             ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27  5:38       ` Yi Liu
2024-09-27  6:02         ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27 11:59           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-27 19:52             ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27 12:12           ` Yi Liu
2024-09-27 20:29             ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_ALLOC test coverage Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_SET/UNSET_VDEV_ID ioctl Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 16:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 17:37     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 17:43       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 20:14         ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11  6:19           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11  7:11             ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11  7:18               ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11  7:47                 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-01  8:54       ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-01 13:46         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-01 18:45           ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27 13:50   ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-09-27 14:01     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-27 14:22       ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-09-27 14:58         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-09-27 15:59           ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-10-04  4:32   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-10-04  5:33     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-04 11:41     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-04 18:13       ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-04 18:50         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-04 19:25           ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-04 20:17             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-04 20:33               ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-07 17:18                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-30  7:54       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-30  7:58         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-05 17:08           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-06  2:53             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-06  4:35               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-06  4:46               ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-06 12:58               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-06 19:55                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-07 12:28                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-07 11:18                 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-07 12:24                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-09  2:57                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-09 22:07                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-10 12:51                         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-12 15:31                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_SET/UNSET_VDEV_ID test coverage Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] iommufd/viommu: Add cache_invalidate for IOMMU_VIOMMU_TYPE_DEFAULT Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 16:05   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] iommufd: Allow hwpt_id to carry viommu_id for IOMMU_HWPT_INVALIDATE Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 16:10   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] iommufd/viommu: Add vdev_id helpers for IOMMU drivers Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 16:14   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 17:53     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11 23:11       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-12  3:17         ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-05  5:19           ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-07 15:38             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-07 16:36               ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-07 17:11                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-07 17:25                   ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-07 18:28                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-07 19:56                       ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] iommu: Add iommu_copy_struct_from_full_user_array helper Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] iommufd/selftest: Add mock_viommu_invalidate_user op Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_TEST_OP_DEV_CHECK_CACHE test command Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] iommufd/selftest: Add VIOMMU coverage for IOMMU_HWPT_INVALIDATE ioctl Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] iommufd/viommu: Add iommufd_viommu_to_parent_domain helper Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_cache_invalidate_user Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 16:23   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 17:56     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_viommu_cache_invalidate Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 16:20   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 18:00     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 18:21       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-11  6:25         ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11  7:20           ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11  7:50             ` Baolu Lu
2024-09-11  8:17               ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11  8:19                 ` Baolu Lu
2024-09-11 21:08                 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-12  4:45                   ` Baolu Lu
2024-09-11  8:13             ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11 20:53               ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11 23:07               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-13  2:33                 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-14 14:50                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-18  8:10                     ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-23 18:34                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-11 23:00           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Allow ATS for IOMMU_DOMAIN_NESTED Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Update comments about ATS and bypass Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11  6:12 ` [PATCH v2 00/19] iommufd: Add VIOMMU infrastructure (Part-1) Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11  7:08   ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11  7:18     ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11  7:40       ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11  8:08         ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11 20:21           ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-01  1:55     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-10-01  3:36       ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-01  5:06         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-10-01 13:44           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-25 10:30 ` Yi Liu
2024-09-25 18:55   ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-26  8:47     ` Yi Liu
2024-09-26 20:03       ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27  2:05         ` Baolu Lu
2024-09-27  6:14           ` Yi Liu
2024-09-27  5:54         ` Yi Liu
2024-09-27  6:32           ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27 12:12             ` Yi Liu
2024-09-27 12:20               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-29  7:19                 ` Yi Liu
2024-10-01 13:48                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-01 18:40                     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27 20:44               ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-29  7:16                 ` Yi Liu
2024-09-30 21:59                   ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-09  7:20                     ` Yi Liu
2024-10-09 12:31                       ` Jason Gunthorpe

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