From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
kevin.tian@intel.com, will@kernel.org, joro@8bytes.org,
suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com, robin.murphy@arm.com,
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jean-philippe@linaro.org, mdf@kernel.org, mshavit@google.com,
shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com, smostafa@google.com,
yi.l.liu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/19] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_SET/UNSET_VDEV_ID ioctl
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 12:31:56 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250512153156.GA286987@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e574e1d0-b003-462d-9a59-ef16e95b7766@amd.com>
On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 10:51:58PM +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
>
>
> On 10/5/25 08:07, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 12:57:18PM +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/5/25 22:24, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 09:18:29PM +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > We should not destroy the vdevice for something like that. In a CC
> > > > > > case that would unplug it from the VM which is not right.
> > > > >
> > > > > vdevice is not directly seen by the guest, is not it? The guest will
> > > > > see, for example, an "AMD IOMMU" and assume there is device table
> > > > > for all 64K devices, and so on, it is QEMU which will be
> > > > > reallocating vdevice in the host's IOMMUFD. Did I miss something
> > > > > here? Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > I imagined the vdevice would trigger the CC call to create the vPCI
> > > > function in the guest attached to the secure iommu.
> > >
> > > What is this vPCI going to look like inside the guest? There still
> > > be AMD IOMMU PCI function and passed through to-be-trusted PCI
> > > function.
> >
> > However the VMM tells it to look using the arguments to the create
> > vdevice ioctl?
> >
> > I don't understand the question?
>
> "We should not destroy the vdevice" confused me. It is not a device
> which a VM would see (or is it?),
I think in some cases it will be.
> we can create/destroy at any time (well, may be not, but the VM does
> not have a say in this). And then this vPCI thing - what is it,
> synonym to "vdevice" or a different thing?
When I say vPCI I usually mean the VM's view of the secure virtual
PCI function.
I'm still not completely clear how each of the arches split up the
responsibility to create the vPCI between all the software
components. I'm pretty sure there are quite a few differences here.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-12 15:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 149+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-27 16:59 [PATCH v2 00/19] iommufd: Add VIOMMU infrastructure (Part-1) Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] iommufd: Reorder struct forward declarations Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 15:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMUFD_OBJ_VIOMMU and IOMMU_VIOMMU_ALLOC ioctl Nicolin Chen
2024-09-01 2:39 ` Baolu Lu
2024-09-02 5:27 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-04 16:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 17:29 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-04 23:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 3:07 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-12 3:39 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-15 21:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 15:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 17:10 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 17:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 18:04 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] iommu: Pass in a viommu pointer to domain_alloc_user op Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 15:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 17:19 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] iommufd: Allow pt_id to carry viommu_id for IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 15:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-26 8:50 ` Yi Liu
2024-09-26 20:10 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27 0:43 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-27 1:25 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27 2:23 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-27 2:57 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27 5:38 ` Yi Liu
2024-09-27 6:02 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27 11:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-27 19:52 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27 12:12 ` Yi Liu
2024-09-27 20:29 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_ALLOC test coverage Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_SET/UNSET_VDEV_ID ioctl Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 16:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 17:37 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 17:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 20:14 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11 6:19 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11 7:11 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11 7:18 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11 7:47 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-01 8:54 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-01 13:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-01 18:45 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27 13:50 ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-09-27 14:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-27 14:22 ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-09-27 14:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-27 15:59 ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-10-04 4:32 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-10-04 5:33 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-04 11:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-04 18:13 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-04 18:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-04 19:25 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-04 20:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-04 20:33 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-07 17:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-30 7:54 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-30 7:58 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-05 17:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-06 2:53 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-06 4:35 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-06 4:46 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-06 12:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-06 19:55 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-07 12:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-07 11:18 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-07 12:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-09 2:57 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-09 22:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-10 12:51 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-12 15:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_SET/UNSET_VDEV_ID test coverage Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] iommufd/viommu: Add cache_invalidate for IOMMU_VIOMMU_TYPE_DEFAULT Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 16:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] iommufd: Allow hwpt_id to carry viommu_id for IOMMU_HWPT_INVALIDATE Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 16:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] iommufd/viommu: Add vdev_id helpers for IOMMU drivers Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 16:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 17:53 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11 23:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-12 3:17 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-05 5:19 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-07 15:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-07 16:36 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-07 17:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-07 17:25 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-07 18:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-07 19:56 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] iommu: Add iommu_copy_struct_from_full_user_array helper Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] iommufd/selftest: Add mock_viommu_invalidate_user op Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_TEST_OP_DEV_CHECK_CACHE test command Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] iommufd/selftest: Add VIOMMU coverage for IOMMU_HWPT_INVALIDATE ioctl Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] iommufd/viommu: Add iommufd_viommu_to_parent_domain helper Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_cache_invalidate_user Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 16:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 17:56 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_viommu_cache_invalidate Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 16:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 18:00 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-05 18:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-11 6:25 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11 7:20 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11 7:50 ` Baolu Lu
2024-09-11 8:17 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11 8:19 ` Baolu Lu
2024-09-11 21:08 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-12 4:45 ` Baolu Lu
2024-09-11 8:13 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11 20:53 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11 23:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-13 2:33 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-14 14:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-18 8:10 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-23 18:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-11 23:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Allow ATS for IOMMU_DOMAIN_NESTED Nicolin Chen
2024-08-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Update comments about ATS and bypass Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11 6:12 ` [PATCH v2 00/19] iommufd: Add VIOMMU infrastructure (Part-1) Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11 7:08 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11 7:18 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11 7:40 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-11 8:08 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-11 20:21 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-01 1:55 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-10-01 3:36 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-01 5:06 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-10-01 13:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-25 10:30 ` Yi Liu
2024-09-25 18:55 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-26 8:47 ` Yi Liu
2024-09-26 20:03 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27 2:05 ` Baolu Lu
2024-09-27 6:14 ` Yi Liu
2024-09-27 5:54 ` Yi Liu
2024-09-27 6:32 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27 12:12 ` Yi Liu
2024-09-27 12:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-29 7:19 ` Yi Liu
2024-10-01 13:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-01 18:40 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-27 20:44 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-29 7:16 ` Yi Liu
2024-09-30 21:59 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-10-09 7:20 ` Yi Liu
2024-10-09 12:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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