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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Fernando Fernandez Mancera <fmancera@suse.de>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	horms@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com,
	dsahern@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3 net-next v4] selftests: net: add test for IPv4 devconf netlink notifications
Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 16:24:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260514162429.366b94c9@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bd560c89-c71f-4ef5-a0fd-5ea096a0f767@suse.de>

On Thu, 14 May 2026 11:42:16 +0200 Fernando Fernandez Mancera wrote:
> On 5/14/26 4:35 AM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 May 2026 10:15:28 +0200 Fernando Fernandez Mancera wrote:  
> >> Introduce a new test, `ipv4_devconf_notify`, to verify that the kernel
> >> sends the appropriate netlink notifications when IPv4 devconf parameters
> >> are modified.
> >>
> >> Since YNL currently has a bug where it declares an array of u32 values
> >> instead of the nested attributes expected by the kernel for devconf set
> >> operations, a temporary hack (`patched_add_attr`) is included to
> >> pack the netlink attributes correctly.  
> > 
> > Right, YNL doesn't really support the level or weirdness that netconf
> > requires. Why use YNL? Can't we test this with iproute2?
> 
> No, AFAIU, iproute2 does not expose devconf settings. The main user of 
> IFLA_INET_CONF are netlink libraries and other userspace tools that 
> heavily rely on netlink operations like NetworkManager, nmstate, nispor, 
> rust-netlink..

Isn't this ip netconf ?

> FWIW, I plan to fix the YNL side of things so we have this fixed 
> properly.

If it adds any hacks or new concepts to YNL it's unlikely to 
be accepted :(

> But I would prefer if this isn't blocked. Another patchset 
> introducing IFLA_INET6_CONF support is also coming.. being able to avoid 
> sysctl usage is quite useful for these userspace tools.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-14 23:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-10  8:15 [PATCH 1/3 net-next v4] ipv4: centralize devconf sysctl handling Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-05-10  8:15 ` [PATCH 2/3 net-next v4] ipv4: handle devconf post-set actions on netlink updates Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-05-14  2:30   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-14  9:16     ` Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-05-10  8:15 ` [PATCH 3/3 net-next v4] selftests: net: add test for IPv4 devconf netlink notifications Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-05-14  2:35   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-14  9:42     ` Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-05-14 23:24       ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2026-05-15  8:02         ` Fernando Fernandez Mancera

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