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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: "Eric Chanudet" <echanude@redhat.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Shakeel Butt" <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@redhat.com>,
	"Albert Esteve" <aesteve@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] mm/cma: charge cma allocation to memcg using per area counters
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2026 18:26:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ao3CQicH0t-k95NA@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5970a8d4-fe7c-4dde-bdc8-1c66bfb57f12@kernel.org>

On Tue 25-08-26 17:45:56, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 8/25/26 16:47, Eric Chanudet wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 10:58:18AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >> On Fri 21-08-26 14:56:52, Eric Chanudet wrote:
> >>> CMA allocations are currently unaccounted for by cgroup memory
> >>> controllers. As system resources, they should fall under memcg, but CMA
> >>> areas partition the available space for different purposes and memcg
> >>> doesn't have a good representation for that.
> >>
> >> Which CMA usecases are covered by this work? It would be also great to
> >> spend more time describing usecases.
> > 
> > We would like to offer some usage guaranties to userspace processes
> > ending up doing allocations in CMA.
> 
> How does this e.g., relate to hugetlb allocating from CMA, to then charge to a
> hugetlb cgroup?
> 
> I always thought of CMA being a low-level allocation mechanism with various
> different use cases, and actually the higher-level users should decide how
> to/what to charge instead.

Exactly. There are many different users of CMA all with different
requirements. Then there is CMA reservations if an area is shared and
the overall memory consumption. That is why I am really not able to
wrap my head around this proposal.


-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-25 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-21 18:56 [PATCH 00/11] mm/cma: charge cma allocation to memcg using per area counters Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 01/11] mm/cma: drop const for struct page on release API Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 02/11] mm/cma: include linux/cma.h in cma.h Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 03/11] cgroup: add memory_cma_accounting mount option Eric Chanudet
2026-08-24  7:02   ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-24 22:03     ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 04/11] memcg: add cma charge/uncharge functions for area counters Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 05/11] mm/cma: charge cma allocation to memcg per " Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 06/11] memcg: register per-area usage counters in cgroupfs Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 07/11] selftests: cgroup: add cma configs for cgroup selftest suite Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:57 ` [PATCH 08/11] selftests: cgroup: add memcg cma tests Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:57 ` [PATCH 09/11] selftests: cgroup: add a vmtest script for memcg Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:57 ` [PATCH 10/11] selftests: cgroup: add memcg hugetlb_cma tests Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:57 ` [PATCH 11/11] selftests: cgroup: amend vmtest-memcg to run the hugetlb cma tests Eric Chanudet
2026-08-23  7:02 ` [PATCH 00/11] mm/cma: charge cma allocation to memcg using per area counters Mike Rapoport
2026-08-24 21:58   ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-25  7:40     ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-24  8:58 ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-25 14:47   ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-25 14:59     ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-25 18:33       ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-25 19:19         ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-25 20:58           ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-26  8:04             ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-25 15:45     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-25 16:26       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2026-08-25 18:50         ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-26  8:02           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-24 13:18 ` Michal Koutný
2026-08-25 14:54   ` Eric Chanudet

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