From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Eric Chanudet <echanude@redhat.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Lorenzo Stoakes" <ljs@kernel.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
"Shakeel Butt" <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@redhat.com>,
"Albert Esteve" <aesteve@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] mm/cma: charge cma allocation to memcg using per area counters
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2026 10:02:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e4e9662-d876-4493-a0b3-e31640937dd1@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ao3gLqsF4WSeKBIa@echanude-thinkpadx1carbongen13.rmtusma.csb>
On 8/25/26 20:50, Eric Chanudet wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2026 at 06:26:42PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
>> On Tue 25-08-26 17:45:56, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>
>>> How does this e.g., relate to hugetlb allocating from CMA, to then charge to a
>>> hugetlb cgroup?
>>>
>
> AFAIU the system defines CMA areas to allocate hugepages from. For this
> initial series, I failed to handle it. The intend was to consider it as
> any other CMA area. It entirely missed that hugepages are already
> accounted for by their controller (cgroupfs opt
> memory_hugetlb_accounting) and they are charged when faulted in from
> their available pool.
>
>>> I always thought of CMA being a low-level allocation mechanism with various
>>> different use cases, and actually the higher-level users should decide how
>>> to/what to charge instead.
>>
>> Exactly. There are many different users of CMA all with different
>> requirements. Then there is CMA reservations if an area is shared and
>> the overall memory consumption. That is why I am really not able to
>> wrap my head around this proposal.
>
> It is nonetheless available almost directly to userspace via dmabuf
> heap, or as a result of drivers ioctl providing a contiguous buffer, and
> unaccounted for by existing controllers, with the exception of CMA
> hugepages with memory_hugetlb_accounting.
No. The charging really only makes sense for selected mechanisms that built onto
CMA.
It does not make any sense for subsystems that declare CMA for their own use only.
Like hugetlb. Or s390x's VMCP region. Or PPC KVM stuff. Or the crash kernel area.
--
Cheers,
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-26 8:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-21 18:56 [PATCH 00/11] mm/cma: charge cma allocation to memcg using per area counters Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 01/11] mm/cma: drop const for struct page on release API Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 02/11] mm/cma: include linux/cma.h in cma.h Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 03/11] cgroup: add memory_cma_accounting mount option Eric Chanudet
2026-08-24 7:02 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-24 22:03 ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 04/11] memcg: add cma charge/uncharge functions for area counters Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 05/11] mm/cma: charge cma allocation to memcg per " Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 06/11] memcg: register per-area usage counters in cgroupfs Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 07/11] selftests: cgroup: add cma configs for cgroup selftest suite Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:57 ` [PATCH 08/11] selftests: cgroup: add memcg cma tests Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:57 ` [PATCH 09/11] selftests: cgroup: add a vmtest script for memcg Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:57 ` [PATCH 10/11] selftests: cgroup: add memcg hugetlb_cma tests Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:57 ` [PATCH 11/11] selftests: cgroup: amend vmtest-memcg to run the hugetlb cma tests Eric Chanudet
2026-08-23 7:02 ` [PATCH 00/11] mm/cma: charge cma allocation to memcg using per area counters Mike Rapoport
2026-08-24 21:58 ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-25 7:40 ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-24 8:58 ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-25 14:47 ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-25 14:59 ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-25 18:33 ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-25 19:19 ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-25 20:58 ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-26 8:04 ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-25 15:45 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-25 16:26 ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-25 18:50 ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-26 8:02 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-08-24 13:18 ` Michal Koutný
2026-08-25 14:54 ` Eric Chanudet
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