From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 13/14] tcp: accecn: stop sending AccECN opt when loss ACK w/ option
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2025 17:46:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b2a0cbdc-776a-42c8-8e19-051a12a1a7bc@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PAXPR07MB7984B98035A3D3A1570F4AF4A31FA@PAXPR07MB7984.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com>
On 9/25/25 4:46 PM, Chia-Yu Chang (Nokia) wrote:
>From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2025 12:52 PM
>> On 9/18/25 6:21 PM, chia-yu.chang@nokia-bell-labs.com wrote:
>>> From: Chia-Yu Chang <chia-yu.chang@nokia-bell-labs.com>
>>>
>>> Detect spurious retransmission of a previously sent ACK carrying the
>>> AccECN option after the second retransmission. Since this might be
>>> caused by the middlebox dropping ACK with options it does not
>>> recognize, disable the sending of the AccECN option in all subsequent
>>> ACKs. This patch follows Section 3.2.3.2.2 of AccECN spec (RFC9768).
>>
>> Is this really useful/triggers in practice?
>>
>> AFAICS it will take effect only it the retransmission happens just after an egress AccECN packet, i.e. will not trigger if the there are more later non AccECN packets pending.
>
> Hi Paolo,
>
> This is a simplied implementation than what is mentieond in the RFC9768:
> "Such a host detect loss of ACKs carrying the AccECN Option by detecting whether the acknowledged data alwaysreappears as a retransmission. In such cases, the host disable the sending of the AccECN Option for this half-connection."
>
> However, to implement the case that not that just after egressing the ACK with AccECN, I was thinking to modify struct tcp_sack_block but that maybe an over engineering.
I agree touching tcp_sack_block looks overkill. I think that the
simplified implementation is a bit too far from the RFC specification
and too simplistic to be effective. I suggest dropping this change.
Thanks,
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-25 15:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-18 16:21 [PATCH v2 net-next 00/14] AccECN protocol case handling series chia-yu.chang
2025-09-18 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 01/14] tcp: try to avoid safer when ACKs are thinned chia-yu.chang
2025-09-23 9:32 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-09-18 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 02/14] gro: flushing when CWR is set negatively affects AccECN chia-yu.chang
2025-09-18 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 03/14] tcp: accecn: Add ece_delta to rate_sample chia-yu.chang
2025-09-23 9:47 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-09-25 7:40 ` Chia-Yu Chang (Nokia)
2025-09-25 7:44 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-09-18 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 04/14] tcp: L4S ECT(1) identifier and NEEDS_ACCECN for CC modules chia-yu.chang
2025-09-23 10:04 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-09-18 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 05/14] tcp: disable RFC3168 fallback identifier " chia-yu.chang
2025-09-23 10:08 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-09-18 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 06/14] tcp: accecn: handle unexpected AccECN negotiation feedback chia-yu.chang
2025-09-23 10:14 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-09-18 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 07/14] tcp: accecn: retransmit downgraded SYN in AccECN negotiation chia-yu.chang
2025-09-18 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 08/14] tcp: move increment of num_retrans chia-yu.chang
2025-09-18 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 09/14] tcp: accecn: retransmit SYN/ACK without AccECN option or non-AccECN SYN/ACK chia-yu.chang
2025-09-18 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 10/14] tcp: accecn: unset ECT if receive or send ACE=0 in AccECN negotiaion chia-yu.chang
2025-09-18 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 11/14] tcp: accecn: fallback outgoing half link to non-AccECN chia-yu.chang
2025-09-23 10:28 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-09-18 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 12/14] tcp: accecn: verify ACE counter in 1st ACK after AccECN negotiation chia-yu.chang
2025-09-18 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 13/14] tcp: accecn: stop sending AccECN opt when loss ACK w/ option chia-yu.chang
2025-09-23 10:52 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-09-25 14:46 ` Chia-Yu Chang (Nokia)
2025-09-25 15:46 ` Paolo Abeni [this message]
2025-09-18 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 14/14] tcp: accecn: enable AccECN chia-yu.chang
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