From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
"Zefan Li" <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] cgroup/cpuset: Find another usable CPU if none found in current cpuset
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 10:42:09 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c07afcbf-8473-b4e3-704e-c73695db95b6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230324143247.GA27199@willie-the-truck>
On 3/24/23 10:32, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 10:59:26AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> On 3/17/23 08:27, Michal Koutný wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 04:22:06PM -0400, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> Some arm64 systems can have asymmetric CPUs where certain tasks are only
>>>> runnable on a selected subset of CPUs.
>>> Ah, I'm catching up.
>>>
>>>> This information is not captured in the cpuset. As a result,
>>>> task_cpu_possible_mask() may return a mask that have no overlap with
>>>> effective_cpus causing new_cpus to become empty.
>>> I can see that historically, there was an approach of terminating
>>> unaccomodable tasks:
>>> 94f9c00f6460 ("arm64: Remove logic to kill 32-bit tasks on 64-bit-only cores")
>>> the removal of killing had been made possible with
>>> df950811f4a8 ("arm64: Prevent offlining first CPU with 32-bit EL0 on mismatched system").
>>>
>>> That gives two other alternatives to affinity modification:
>>> 2) kill such tasks (not unlike OOM upon memory.max reduction),
>>> 3) reject cpuset reduction (violates cgroup v2 delegation).
>>>
>>> What do you think about 2)?
>> Yes, killing it is one possible solution.
>>
>> (3) doesn't work if the affinity change is due to hot cpu removal. So that
>> leaves this patch or (2) as the only alternative. I would like to hear what
>> Will and Tejun thinks about it.
> The main constraint from the Android side (the lucky ecosystem where these
> SoCs tend to show up) is that existing userspace (including 32-bit binaries)
> continues to function without modification. So approaches such as killing
> tasks or rejecting system calls tend not to work as well, since you
> inevitably get divergent behaviour leading to functional breakage rather
> than e.g. performance anomalies.
>
> Having said that, the behaviour we currently have in mainline seems to
> be alright, so please don't go out of your way to accomodate these SoCs.
> I'm mainly just concerned about introducing any regressions, which is why
> I ran my tests on this series
I agree that killing it may be too draconian. I am withholding this
patch for now.
Thanks,
Longman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-24 14:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-06 20:08 [PATCH 0/5] cgroup/cpuset: Miscellaneous updates Waiman Long
2023-03-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 1/5] cgroup/cpuset: Skip task update if hotplug doesn't affect current cpuset Waiman Long
2023-03-14 16:50 ` Michal Koutný
2023-03-14 18:20 ` Waiman Long
2023-03-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 2/5] cgroup/cpuset: Include offline CPUs when tasks' cpumasks in top_cpuset are updated Waiman Long
2023-03-14 17:34 ` Michal Koutný
2023-03-14 19:02 ` Waiman Long
2023-03-15 10:06 ` Michal Koutný
2023-03-15 14:39 ` Waiman Long
2023-03-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 3/5] cgroup/cpuset: Find another usable CPU if none found in current cpuset Waiman Long
2023-03-14 18:17 ` Michal Koutný
2023-03-14 20:22 ` Waiman Long
2023-03-17 12:27 ` Michal Koutný
2023-03-17 14:59 ` Waiman Long
2023-03-24 14:32 ` Will Deacon
2023-03-24 14:42 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2023-03-24 18:19 ` Michal Koutný
2023-03-25 22:08 ` Waiman Long
2023-03-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 4/5] cgroup/cpuset: Add CONFIG_DEBUG_CPUSETS config for cpuset testing Waiman Long
2023-03-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 5/5] cgroup/cpuset: Minor updates to test_cpuset_prs.sh Waiman Long
2023-03-07 16:16 ` Kamalesh Babulal
2023-03-15 16:24 ` [PATCH 0/5] cgroup/cpuset: Miscellaneous updates Will Deacon
2023-03-15 16:59 ` Waiman Long
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