From: "Gupta, Pankaj" <pankaj.gupta@amd.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 00/14] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 19:41:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfd38409-d045-4cdf-2104-dc8344515ee4@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yvu54I7Y+/ybVyec@google.com>
>>>>> Actually the current version allows you to delay the allocation to a
>>>>> later time (e.g. page fault time) if you don't call fallocate() on the
>>>>> private fd. fallocate() is necessary in previous versions because we
>>>>> treat the existense in the fd as 'private' but in this version we track
>>>>> private/shared info in KVM so we don't rely on that fact from memory
>>>>> backstores.
>>>>
>>>> Does this also mean reservation of guest physical memory with secure
>>>> processor (both for SEV-SNP & TDX) will also happen at page fault time?
>>>>
>>>> Do we plan to keep it this way?
>>>
>>> If you are talking about accepting memory by the guest, it is initiated by
>>> the guest and has nothing to do with page fault time vs fallocate()
>>> allocation of host memory. I mean acceptance happens after host memory
>>> allocation but they are not in lockstep, acceptance can happen much later.
>>
>> No, I meant reserving guest physical memory range from hypervisor e.g with
>> RMPUpdate for SEV-SNP or equivalent at TDX side (PAMTs?).
>
> As proposed, RMP/PAMT updates will occur in the fault path, i.e. there is no way
> for userspace to pre-map guest memory.
>
> I think the best approach is to turn KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION into a generic
> vCPU-scoped ioctl() that allows userspace to pre-map guest memory. Supporting
> initializing guest private memory with a source page can be implemented via a
> flag. That also gives KVM line of sight to in-place "conversion", e.g. another
> flag could be added to say that the dest is also the source.
Questions to clarify *my* understanding here:
- Do you suggest to use KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION into a generic ioctl to
pre-map guest private memory in addition to initialize the payload
(in-place encryption or just copy page to guest private memory)?
- Want to clarify "pre-map": Are you suggesting to use the ioctl
to avoid the RMP/PAMT registration at guest page fault time? instead
pre-map guest private memory i.e to allocate and do RMP/PAMT
registration before running the actual guest vCPU's?
Thanks,
Pankaj
>
> The TDX and SNP restrictions would then become addition restrictions on when
> initializing with a source is allowed (and VMs that don't have guest private
> memory wouldn't allow the flag at all).
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-23 19:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 172+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-06 8:20 [PATCH v7 00/14] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Chao Peng
2022-07-06 8:20 ` [PATCH v7 01/14] mm: Add F_SEAL_AUTO_ALLOCATE seal to memfd Chao Peng
2022-07-21 9:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-21 9:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-21 15:05 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-25 13:46 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-21 10:27 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-25 13:54 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-25 14:49 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-25 13:42 ` Chao Peng
2022-08-05 17:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-08-05 18:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10 9:40 ` Chao Peng
2022-08-10 9:38 ` Chao Peng
2022-08-17 23:41 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-18 9:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-08-23 7:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-24 10:20 ` Chao Peng
2022-08-26 15:19 ` Fuad Tabba
2022-08-29 15:18 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06 8:20 ` [PATCH v7 02/14] selftests/memfd: Add tests for F_SEAL_AUTO_ALLOCATE Chao Peng
2022-08-05 13:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-06 8:20 ` [PATCH v7 03/14] mm: Introduce memfile_notifier Chao Peng
2022-08-05 13:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10 9:22 ` Chao Peng
2022-08-10 10:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10 14:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-11 12:27 ` Quentin Perret
2022-08-11 13:39 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06 8:20 ` [PATCH v7 04/14] mm/shmem: Support memfile_notifier Chao Peng
2022-07-12 18:02 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-13 7:44 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-13 10:01 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-13 23:49 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-14 4:15 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-05 13:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10 9:25 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06 8:20 ` [PATCH v7 05/14] mm/memfd: Introduce MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag Chao Peng
2022-08-05 13:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10 9:37 ` Chao Peng
2022-08-10 9:55 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-11 13:17 ` Chao Peng
2022-09-07 16:18 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-07-06 8:20 ` [PATCH v7 06/14] KVM: Rename KVM_PRIVATE_MEM_SLOTS to KVM_INTERNAL_MEM_SLOTS Chao Peng
2022-07-06 8:20 ` [PATCH v7 07/14] KVM: Use gfn instead of hva for mmu_notifier_retry Chao Peng
2022-07-15 11:36 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-18 13:29 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-18 15:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-19 14:02 ` Chao Peng
2022-08-04 7:10 ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-08-10 8:19 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06 8:20 ` [PATCH v7 08/14] KVM: Rename mmu_notifier_* Chao Peng
2022-07-29 19:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-03 10:13 ` Chao Peng
2022-08-05 19:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-08-10 8:09 ` Chao Peng
2023-05-23 7:19 ` Kautuk Consul
2023-05-23 14:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-24 6:12 ` Kautuk Consul
2023-05-24 20:16 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-24 20:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-24 21:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-25 8:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-25 3:52 ` Kautuk Consul
2023-05-24 20:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-06 8:20 ` [PATCH v7 09/14] KVM: Extend the memslot to support fd-based private memory Chao Peng
2022-07-29 19:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-03 10:08 ` Chao Peng
2022-08-03 14:42 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-06 8:20 ` [PATCH v7 10/14] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT exit Chao Peng
2022-07-06 8:20 ` [PATCH v7 11/14] KVM: Register/unregister the guest private memory regions Chao Peng
2022-07-19 8:00 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-19 14:08 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-19 14:23 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-20 15:07 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-20 15:31 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-20 16:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-20 17:41 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-21 7:34 ` Wei Wang
2022-07-21 9:29 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-21 17:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-25 13:04 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-29 19:54 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-02 0:49 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-02 16:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-03 9:48 ` Chao Peng
2022-08-03 15:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-04 7:58 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-20 16:44 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-21 9:37 ` Chao Peng
2022-08-19 19:37 ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-08-24 10:37 ` Chao Peng
2022-08-26 15:19 ` Fuad Tabba
2022-08-29 15:21 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06 8:20 ` [PATCH v7 12/14] KVM: Handle page fault for private memory Chao Peng
2022-07-29 20:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-03 9:52 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06 8:20 ` [PATCH v7 13/14] KVM: Enable and expose KVM_MEM_PRIVATE Chao Peng
2022-07-19 9:55 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-19 14:12 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-06 8:20 ` [PATCH v7 14/14] memfd_create.2: Describe MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag Chao Peng
2022-08-01 14:40 ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-03 9:53 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-13 3:58 ` [PATCH v7 00/14] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-13 7:57 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-13 10:35 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-13 23:59 ` Chao Peng
2022-07-14 4:39 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-14 5:06 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-07-14 4:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-07-14 5:13 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-11 10:02 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-11 11:30 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-11 13:32 ` Chao Peng
2022-08-11 17:28 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-12 3:22 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-11 17:18 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-11 23:02 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-12 6:02 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-12 7:18 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-12 8:48 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-12 9:33 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-15 13:04 ` Chao Peng
2022-08-16 4:28 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-08-16 11:33 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-16 12:24 ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-08-16 13:03 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-08-16 15:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-17 15:27 ` Michael Roth
2022-08-23 1:25 ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-08-23 17:41 ` Gupta, Pankaj [this message]
2022-08-18 5:40 ` Hugh Dickins
2022-08-18 13:24 ` Kirill A . Shutemov
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2022-08-19 3:38 ` Hugh Dickins
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2022-08-23 7:55 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-23 16:05 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 9:41 ` Chao Peng
2022-09-09 4:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-08-19 3:00 ` Hugh Dickins
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2022-08-21 5:15 ` Hugh Dickins
2022-08-31 14:24 ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-09-02 10:27 ` Chao Peng
2022-09-02 12:30 ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-09-08 1:10 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13 9:44 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-13 13:28 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
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2022-08-21 10:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
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