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* [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2
@ 2008-06-06 13:50 Antony MARTINEAU
  2008-06-06 14:18 ` Larry Dickson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Antony MARTINEAU @ 2008-06-06 13:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm


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Hello,
My configuration:
Server DELL 2860 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU  X3230 @ 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
8GB of  memory
2 x SAS 15000 300G0 RAID 0 hardware 
SLES 10 SP2
Kernel 2.6.16.60-0.21-xen

i have one volume group vg0 ( whith one PV, the two disks in raid0) whith 
many lvm
I am very surprise about LVM2 performance when a snapshot is done.
Write speed on the Original volume is very bad when a snaphot is active...

For exemple:

Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is NO snapshot :

suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
400+0 records in
400+0 records out
838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s

Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is one snapshot of this original volume 
:

suse2:~ # lvremove --force /dev/vg0/test3.snap
  Logical volume "test3.snap" successfully removed
suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
400+0 records in
400+0 records out
838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s
suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest.snap /dev/vg0/test
  Logical volume "test.snap" created
suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
400+0 records in
400+0 records out
838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 204.862 seconds, 4.1 MB/s


Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is 2 snapshots of this original volume :

suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest1.snap /dev/vg0/test
  Logical volume "test1.snap" created
suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest2.snap /dev/vg0/test
  Logical volume "test2.snap" created
suse2:~ # lvremove /dev/vg0/test2.snap
Do you really want to remove active logical volume "test2.snap"? [y/n]: y
  Logical volume "test2.snap" successfully removed
suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
400+0 records in
400+0 records out
838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 270.928 seconds, 3.1 MB/s


Do you know  some elements about tunning performance?,?

Performances are disastrous when a snaphot is active
Could you give your speed result? and your amelioration??

ps:Results are the same whithout Kernel Xen and whith a kernel more recent 
(2.6.24.2)

Cordialement,



MARTINEAU
Antony 
Service informatique 
Assistant informatique 
LIPPI Management 
La Fouillouse
16440 Mouthiers sur Boheme 
Tel.: 05.45.67.34.35
Courriel: antony.martineau@lippi.fr
http://www.lippi.fr 








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* Re: [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2
  2008-06-06 13:50 [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2 Antony MARTINEAU
@ 2008-06-06 14:18 ` Larry Dickson
  2008-06-06 14:33   ` Antony MARTINEAU
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Larry Dickson @ 2008-06-06 14:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: LVM general discussion and development


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This looks like the result of excessive seeking. Are origin volume and
snapshot both on the same physical drive? Is it possible to make a volume
group out of two drives, and arrange things so that origin volume and
snapshot are hitting different disks?

Larry Dickson
Cutting Edge Networked Storage

On 6/6/08, Antony MARTINEAU <Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr> wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
> My configuration:
> Server DELL 2860 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU  X3230 @ 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
> 8GB of  memory
> 2 x SAS 15000 300G0 RAID 0 hardware
> SLES 10 SP2
> Kernel 2.6.16.60-0.21-xen
>
> i have one volume group vg0 ( whith one PV, the two disks in raid0) whith
> many lvm
> I am very surprise about LVM2 performance when a snapshot is done.
> Write speed on the Original volume is very bad when a snaphot is active...
>
> For exemple:
>
> *Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is NO snapshot :*
>
> suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> 400+0 records in
> 400+0 records out
> 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s
>
> *Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is one snapshot of this original volume
> :*
>
> suse2:~ # lvremove --force /dev/vg0/test3.snap
>   Logical volume "test3.snap" successfully removed
> suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> 400+0 records in
> 400+0 records out
> 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s
> suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest.snap /dev/vg0/test
>   Logical volume "test.snap" created
> suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> 400+0 records in
> 400+0 records out
> 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 204.862 seconds, 4.1 MB/s
>
>
> *Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is 2 snapshots of this original volume
> :*
>
> suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest1.snap /dev/vg0/test
>   Logical volume "test1.snap" created
> suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest2.snap /dev/vg0/test
>   Logical volume "test2.snap" created
> suse2:~ # lvremove /dev/vg0/test2.snap
> Do you really want to remove active logical volume "test2.snap"? [y/n]: y
>   Logical volume "test2.snap" successfully removed
> suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> 400+0 records in
> 400+0 records out
> 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 270.928 seconds, 3.1 MB/s
>
>
> Do you know  some elements about tunning performance?,?
>
> Performances are disastrous when a snaphot is active
> Could you give your speed result? and your amelioration??
>
> ps:Results are the same whithout Kernel Xen and whith a kernel more recent
> (2.6.24.2)
>   Cordialement,
>
>    *MARTINEAU
> Antony*
> Service informatique
> Assistant informatique
> LIPPI Management La Fouillouse
> 16440 Mouthiers sur Boheme
> Tel.: 05.45.67.34.35
> Courriel: *antony.martineau@lippi.fr* <antony.martineau@lippi.fr>*
> **http://www.lippi.fr* <http://www.lippi.fr/>
>
>
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* Re: [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2
  2008-06-06 14:18 ` Larry Dickson
@ 2008-06-06 14:33   ` Antony MARTINEAU
  2008-06-06 15:03     ` Larry Dickson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Antony MARTINEAU @ 2008-06-06 14:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: LVM general discussion and development


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The volume group vg0 is the raid0 of two disk (SAS 15000rpm 300G0)
I have only this raid on the server

But i don't understand, imagine i make a volume group  ou of this raid0. 
It is no possible to snapshot the original volume, am i wrong?

If i make a new VG on another disks, For exemple /dev/vg1/
LVM don't permit to store a snaphot on a different VG than the origin 
volum.

for exemple /dev/vg0/test cant be snapshoting on /dev/vg1/test.snap

LV test and LV test.snap must be on the same volume, am i wrong ???? so it 
is impossible to store snapshot on another disk....



Cordialement,



MARTINEAU
Antony 
Service informatique 
Assistant informatique 
LIPPI Management 
La Fouillouse
16440 Mouthiers sur Boheme 
Tel.: 05.45.67.34.35
Courriel: antony.martineau@lippi.fr
http://www.lippi.fr 




De :
"Larry Dickson" <ldickson@cuttedge.com>
Pour :
"LVM general discussion and development" <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Date:
06/06/2008 16:19
Objet :
Re: [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2



This looks like the result of excessive seeking. Are origin volume and 
snapshot both on the same physical drive? Is it possible to make a volume 
group out of two drives, and arrange things so that origin volume and 
snapshot are hitting different disks?
 
Larry Dickson
Cutting Edge Networked Storage
 
On 6/6/08, Antony MARTINEAU <Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr> wrote: 

Hello, 
My configuration: 
Server DELL 2860 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU  X3230 @ 2.66GHz (Quad Core) 
8GB of  memory 
2 x SAS 15000 300G0 RAID 0 hardware 
SLES 10 SP2 
Kernel 2.6.16.60-0.21-xen 

i have one volume group vg0 ( whith one PV, the two disks in raid0) whith 
many lvm 
I am very surprise about LVM2 performance when a snapshot is done. 
Write speed on the Original volume is very bad when a snaphot is active... 


For exemple: 

Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is NO snapshot : 

suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400 
400+0 records in 
400+0 records out 
838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s 

Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is one snapshot of this original volume 
: 

suse2:~ # lvremove --force /dev/vg0/test3.snap 
  Logical volume "test3.snap" successfully removed 
suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400 
400+0 records in 
400+0 records out 
838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s 
suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest.snap /dev/vg0/test 
  Logical volume "test.snap" created 
suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400 
400+0 records in 
400+0 records out 
838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 204.862 seconds, 4.1 MB/s 


Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is 2 snapshots of this original volume : 


suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest1.snap /dev/vg0/test 
  Logical volume "test1.snap" created 
suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest2.snap /dev/vg0/test 
  Logical volume "test2.snap" created 
suse2:~ # lvremove /dev/vg0/test2.snap 
Do you really want to remove active logical volume "test2.snap"? [y/n]: y 
  Logical volume "test2.snap" successfully removed 
suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400 
400+0 records in 
400+0 records out 
838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 270.928 seconds, 3.1 MB/s 


Do you know  some elements about tunning performance?,? 

Performances are disastrous when a snaphot is active 
Could you give your speed result? and your amelioration?? 

ps:Results are the same whithout Kernel Xen and whith a kernel more recent 
(2.6.24.2)
Cordialement,


MARTINEAU
Antony 
Service informatique 
Assistant informatique 
LIPPI Management 
La Fouillouse
16440 Mouthiers sur Boheme 
Tel.: 05.45.67.34.35
Courriel: antony.martineau@lippi.fr
http://www.lippi.fr 









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* Re: [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2
  2008-06-06 14:33   ` Antony MARTINEAU
@ 2008-06-06 15:03     ` Larry Dickson
  2008-06-06 18:46       ` RE " Antony MARTINEAU
  2008-06-09  9:44       ` Heinz Mauelshagen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Larry Dickson @ 2008-06-06 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: LVM general discussion and development


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A (linear) volume group made of two physical volumes consists of one PV
followed by the other, rather like a "Raid-Linear". If you size the
origin logical volume right, you can get one LV (the origin) to fall on one
disk, and force the snapshot to land on the other disk. This eliminates
back-and-forth seeking to the COW. Whether it solves your problem will
depend on how smart the driver is about the read-before-write activity on
the origin volume.

Other members of the list may have more experience on this. Comments?

Larry

On 6/6/08, Antony MARTINEAU <Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr> wrote:
>
>
> The volume group vg0 is the raid0 of two disk (SAS 15000rpm 300G0)
> I have only this raid on the server
>
> But i don't understand, imagine i make a volume group  ou of this raid0. It
> is no possible to snapshot the original volume, am i wrong?
>
> If i make a new VG on another disks, For exemple /dev/vg1/
> LVM don't permit to store a snaphot on a different VG than the origin
> volum.
>
> for exemple /dev/vg0/test cant be snapshoting on /dev/vg1/test.snap
>
> LV test and LV test.snap must be on the same volume, am i wrong ???? so it
> is impossible to store snapshot on another disk....
>
>
>   Cordialement,
>
>    *MARTINEAU
> Antony*
> Service informatique
> Assistant informatique
> LIPPI Management La Fouillouse
> 16440 Mouthiers sur Boheme
> Tel.: 05.45.67.34.35
> Courriel: *antony.martineau@lippi.fr* <antony.martineau@lippi.fr>*
> **http://www.lippi.fr* <http://www.lippi.fr/>
>
>
>
>   De : "Larry Dickson" <ldickson@cuttedge.com> Pour : "LVM general
> discussion and development" <linux-lvm@redhat.com> Date: 06/06/2008 16:19 Objet
> : Re: [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> This looks like the result of excessive seeking. Are origin volume and
> snapshot both on the same physical drive? Is it possible to make a volume
> group out of two drives, and arrange things so that origin volume and
> snapshot are hitting different disks?
>
> Larry Dickson
> Cutting Edge Networked Storage
>
> On 6/6/08, *Antony MARTINEAU* <*Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr*<Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr>>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> My configuration:
> Server DELL 2860 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU  X3230 @ 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
> 8GB of  memory
> 2 x SAS 15000 300G0 RAID 0 hardware
> SLES 10 SP2
> Kernel 2.6.16.60-0.21-xen
>
> i have one volume group vg0 ( whith one PV, the two disks in raid0) whith
> many lvm
> I am very surprise about LVM2 performance when a snapshot is done.
> Write speed on the Original volume is very bad when a snaphot is active...
>
> For exemple:
> *
> Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is NO snapshot :*
>
> suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> 400+0 records in
> 400+0 records out
> 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s
> *
> Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is one snapshot of this original volume :
> *
>
> suse2:~ # lvremove --force /dev/vg0/test3.snap
>  Logical volume "test3.snap" successfully removed
> suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> 400+0 records in
> 400+0 records out
> 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s
> suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest.snap /dev/vg0/test
>  Logical volume "test.snap" created
> suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> 400+0 records in
> 400+0 records out
> 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 204.862 seconds, 4.1 MB/s
>
> *
> Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is 2 snapshots of this original volume :
> *
>
> suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest1.snap /dev/vg0/test
>  Logical volume "test1.snap" created
> suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest2.snap /dev/vg0/test
>  Logical volume "test2.snap" created
> suse2:~ # lvremove /dev/vg0/test2.snap
> Do you really want to remove active logical volume "test2.snap"? [y/n]: y
>  Logical volume "test2.snap" successfully removed
> suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> 400+0 records in
> 400+0 records out
> 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 270.928 seconds, 3.1 MB/s
>
>
> Do you know  some elements about tunning performance?,?
>
> Performances are disastrous when a snaphot is active
> Could you give your speed result? and your amelioration??
>
> ps:Results are the same whithout Kernel Xen and whith a kernel more recent
> (*2.6.24.2* <http://2.6.24.2/>)  Cordialement,
>    *MARTINEAU
> Antony*
> Service informatique
> Assistant informatique
> LIPPI Management La Fouillouse
> 16440 Mouthiers sur Boheme
> Tel.: 05.45.67.34.35
> Courriel: *antony.martineau@lippi.fr* <antony.martineau@lippi.fr>*
> **http://www.lippi.fr* <http://www.lippi.fr/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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* RE Re: [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2
  2008-06-06 15:03     ` Larry Dickson
@ 2008-06-06 18:46       ` Antony MARTINEAU
  2008-06-09  9:44       ` Heinz Mauelshagen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2
  2008-06-06 15:03     ` Larry Dickson
  2008-06-06 18:46       ` RE " Antony MARTINEAU
@ 2008-06-09  9:44       ` Heinz Mauelshagen
  2008-06-09 10:06         ` Antony MARTINEAU
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Heinz Mauelshagen @ 2008-06-09  9:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: LVM general discussion and development

On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 08:03:51AM -0700, Larry Dickson wrote:
> A (linear) volume group made of two physical volumes consists of one PV
> followed by the other, rather like a "Raid-Linear". If you size the
> origin logical volume right, you can get one LV (the origin) to fall on one
> disk, and force the snapshot to land on the other disk. This eliminates
> back-and-forth seeking to the COW. Whether it solves your problem will
> depend on how smart the driver is about the read-before-write activity on
> the origin volume.
> 
> Other members of the list may have more experience on this. Comments?

If I read correctly, Antony just has *ONE* PV.

So no matter what, he has to add another to allow for snapshot COW
store allocation on that other PV, distinct from the one holding
the origin(s). Presumably there's no other bottleneck aside from the
disk, that'll do better.

Keep in mind, that unless you've got streaming writes, the performance
won't drop as much as in the (artificial) dd test below.

FYI: With the current snapshot implementation, multiple snapshots per single
     origin will throttle write performance because of write duplication
     to all per snapshot COW stores.

Heinz

> 
> Larry
> 
> On 6/6/08, Antony MARTINEAU <Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The volume group vg0 is the raid0 of two disk (SAS 15000rpm 300G0)
> > I have only this raid on the server
> >
> > But i don't understand, imagine i make a volume group  ou of this raid0. It
> > is no possible to snapshot the original volume, am i wrong?
> >
> > If i make a new VG on another disks, For exemple /dev/vg1/
> > LVM don't permit to store a snaphot on a different VG than the origin
> > volum.
> >
> > for exemple /dev/vg0/test cant be snapshoting on /dev/vg1/test.snap
> >
> > LV test and LV test.snap must be on the same volume, am i wrong ???? so it
> > is impossible to store snapshot on another disk....
> >
> >
> >   Cordialement,
> >
> >    *MARTINEAU
> > Antony*
> > Service informatique
> > Assistant informatique
> > LIPPI Management La Fouillouse
> > 16440 Mouthiers sur Boheme
> > Tel.: 05.45.67.34.35
> > Courriel: *antony.martineau@lippi.fr* <antony.martineau@lippi.fr>*
> > **http://www.lippi.fr* <http://www.lippi.fr/>
> >
> >
> >
> >   De : "Larry Dickson" <ldickson@cuttedge.com> Pour : "LVM general
> > discussion and development" <linux-lvm@redhat.com> Date: 06/06/2008 16:19 Objet
> > : Re: [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > This looks like the result of excessive seeking. Are origin volume and
> > snapshot both on the same physical drive? Is it possible to make a volume
> > group out of two drives, and arrange things so that origin volume and
> > snapshot are hitting different disks?
> >
> > Larry Dickson
> > Cutting Edge Networked Storage
> >
> > On 6/6/08, *Antony MARTINEAU* <*Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr*<Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > My configuration:
> > Server DELL 2860 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU  X3230 @ 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
> > 8GB of  memory
> > 2 x SAS 15000 300G0 RAID 0 hardware
> > SLES 10 SP2
> > Kernel 2.6.16.60-0.21-xen
> >
> > i have one volume group vg0 ( whith one PV, the two disks in raid0) whith
> > many lvm
> > I am very surprise about LVM2 performance when a snapshot is done.
> > Write speed on the Original volume is very bad when a snaphot is active...
> >
> > For exemple:
> > *
> > Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is NO snapshot :*
> >
> > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > 400+0 records in
> > 400+0 records out
> > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s
> > *
> > Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is one snapshot of this original volume :
> > *
> >
> > suse2:~ # lvremove --force /dev/vg0/test3.snap
> >  Logical volume "test3.snap" successfully removed
> > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > 400+0 records in
> > 400+0 records out
> > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s
> > suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest.snap /dev/vg0/test
> >  Logical volume "test.snap" created
> > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > 400+0 records in
> > 400+0 records out
> > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 204.862 seconds, 4.1 MB/s
> >
> > *
> > Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is 2 snapshots of this original volume :
> > *
> >
> > suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest1.snap /dev/vg0/test
> >  Logical volume "test1.snap" created
> > suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest2.snap /dev/vg0/test
> >  Logical volume "test2.snap" created
> > suse2:~ # lvremove /dev/vg0/test2.snap
> > Do you really want to remove active logical volume "test2.snap"? [y/n]: y
> >  Logical volume "test2.snap" successfully removed
> > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > 400+0 records in
> > 400+0 records out
> > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 270.928 seconds, 3.1 MB/s
> >
> >
> > Do you know  some elements about tunning performance?,?
> >
> > Performances are disastrous when a snaphot is active
> > Could you give your speed result? and your amelioration??
> >
> > ps:Results are the same whithout Kernel Xen and whith a kernel more recent
> > (*2.6.24.2* <http://2.6.24.2/>)  Cordialement,
> >    *MARTINEAU
> > Antony*
> > Service informatique
> > Assistant informatique
> > LIPPI Management La Fouillouse
> > 16440 Mouthiers sur Boheme
> > Tel.: 05.45.67.34.35
> > Courriel: *antony.martineau@lippi.fr* <antony.martineau@lippi.fr>*
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* Re: [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2
  2008-06-09  9:44       ` Heinz Mauelshagen
@ 2008-06-09 10:06         ` Antony MARTINEAU
  2008-06-09 11:43           ` Heinz Mauelshagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Antony MARTINEAU @ 2008-06-09 10:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mauelshagen, LVM general discussion and development


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Thanks for your answer...
But my test show that it is, the LVM2 software the probleme...

Because even whith 3 writing test at the same time on 3 LV which are on 
the same VG and the same PV, the performance are better than one LV whith 
only one snapshot...

Look this test:

suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=10M count=150
150+0 records in
150+0 records out
1572864000 bytes (1.6 GB) copied, 27.9422 seconds, 56.3 MB/s

suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test2 bs=10M count=150
150+0 records in
150+0 records out
1572864000 bytes (1.6 GB) copied, 33.2836 seconds, 47.3 MB/s

suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test3 bs=10M count=150
150+0 records in
150+0 records out
1572864000 bytes (1.6 GB) copied, 33.784 seconds, 46.6 MB/s

With 3 writing test AT THE SAME TIME , the average is better that one 
writing test on one LV whith one snap

Look,

suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L2G -ntest.snap /dev/vg0/test
  Logical volume "test.snap" created

suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=10M count=150
150+0 records in
150+0 records out
1572864000 bytes (1.6 GB) copied, 382.315 seconds, 4.1 MB/s

It is disastrous...

I think dd is a good test...


Cordialement,



MARTINEAU
Antony 
Service informatique 
Assistant informatique 
LIPPI Management 
La Fouillouse
16440 Mouthiers sur Boheme 
Tel.: 05.45.67.34.35
Courriel: antony.martineau@lippi.fr
http://www.lippi.fr 




De :
Heinz Mauelshagen <mauelshagen@redhat.com>
Pour :
LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Date:
09/06/2008 11:46
Objet :
Re: [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2



On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 08:03:51AM -0700, Larry Dickson wrote:
> A (linear) volume group made of two physical volumes consists of one PV
> followed by the other, rather like a "Raid-Linear". If you size the
> origin logical volume right, you can get one LV (the origin) to fall on 
one
> disk, and force the snapshot to land on the other disk. This eliminates
> back-and-forth seeking to the COW. Whether it solves your problem will
> depend on how smart the driver is about the read-before-write activity 
on
> the origin volume.
> 
> Other members of the list may have more experience on this. Comments?

If I read correctly, Antony just has *ONE* PV.

So no matter what, he has to add another to allow for snapshot COW
store allocation on that other PV, distinct from the one holding
the origin(s). Presumably there's no other bottleneck aside from the
disk, that'll do better.

Keep in mind, that unless you've got streaming writes, the performance
won't drop as much as in the (artificial) dd test below.

FYI: With the current snapshot implementation, multiple snapshots per 
single
     origin will throttle write performance because of write duplication
     to all per snapshot COW stores.

Heinz

> 
> Larry
> 
> On 6/6/08, Antony MARTINEAU <Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The volume group vg0 is the raid0 of two disk (SAS 15000rpm 300G0)
> > I have only this raid on the server
> >
> > But i don't understand, imagine i make a volume group  ou of this 
raid0. It
> > is no possible to snapshot the original volume, am i wrong?
> >
> > If i make a new VG on another disks, For exemple /dev/vg1/
> > LVM don't permit to store a snaphot on a different VG than the origin
> > volum.
> >
> > for exemple /dev/vg0/test cant be snapshoting on /dev/vg1/test.snap
> >
> > LV test and LV test.snap must be on the same volume, am i wrong ???? 
so it
> > is impossible to store snapshot on another disk....
> >
> >
> >   Cordialement,
> >
> >    *MARTINEAU
> > Antony*
> > Service informatique
> > Assistant informatique
> > LIPPI Management La Fouillouse
> > 16440 Mouthiers sur Boheme
> > Tel.: 05.45.67.34.35
> > Courriel: *antony.martineau@lippi.fr* <antony.martineau@lippi.fr>*
> > **http://www.lippi.fr* <http://www.lippi.fr/>
> >
> >
> >
> >   De : "Larry Dickson" <ldickson@cuttedge.com> Pour : "LVM general
> > discussion and development" <linux-lvm@redhat.com> Date: 06/06/2008 
16:19 Objet
> > : Re: [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > This looks like the result of excessive seeking. Are origin volume and
> > snapshot both on the same physical drive? Is it possible to make a 
volume
> > group out of two drives, and arrange things so that origin volume and
> > snapshot are hitting different disks?
> >
> > Larry Dickson
> > Cutting Edge Networked Storage
> >
> > On 6/6/08, *Antony MARTINEAU* 
<*Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr*<Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > My configuration:
> > Server DELL 2860 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU  X3230 @ 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
> > 8GB of  memory
> > 2 x SAS 15000 300G0 RAID 0 hardware
> > SLES 10 SP2
> > Kernel 2.6.16.60-0.21-xen
> >
> > i have one volume group vg0 ( whith one PV, the two disks in raid0) 
whith
> > many lvm
> > I am very surprise about LVM2 performance when a snapshot is done.
> > Write speed on the Original volume is very bad when a snaphot is 
active...
> >
> > For exemple:
> > *
> > Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is NO snapshot :*
> >
> > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > 400+0 records in
> > 400+0 records out
> > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s
> > *
> > Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is one snapshot of this original 
volume :
> > *
> >
> > suse2:~ # lvremove --force /dev/vg0/test3.snap
> >  Logical volume "test3.snap" successfully removed
> > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > 400+0 records in
> > 400+0 records out
> > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s
> > suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest.snap /dev/vg0/test
> >  Logical volume "test.snap" created
> > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > 400+0 records in
> > 400+0 records out
> > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 204.862 seconds, 4.1 MB/s
> >
> > *
> > Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is 2 snapshots of this original 
volume :
> > *
> >
> > suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest1.snap /dev/vg0/test
> >  Logical volume "test1.snap" created
> > suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest2.snap /dev/vg0/test
> >  Logical volume "test2.snap" created
> > suse2:~ # lvremove /dev/vg0/test2.snap
> > Do you really want to remove active logical volume "test2.snap"? 
[y/n]: y
> >  Logical volume "test2.snap" successfully removed
> > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > 400+0 records in
> > 400+0 records out
> > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 270.928 seconds, 3.1 MB/s
> >
> >
> > Do you know  some elements about tunning performance?,?
> >
> > Performances are disastrous when a snaphot is active
> > Could you give your speed result? and your amelioration??
> >
> > ps:Results are the same whithout Kernel Xen and whith a kernel more 
recent
> > (*2.6.24.2* <http://2.6.24.2/>)  Cordialement,
> >    *MARTINEAU
> > Antony*
> > Service informatique
> > Assistant informatique
> > LIPPI Management La Fouillouse
> > 16440 Mouthiers sur Boheme
> > Tel.: 05.45.67.34.35
> > Courriel: *antony.martineau@lippi.fr* <antony.martineau@lippi.fr>*
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* Re: [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2
  2008-06-09 10:06         ` Antony MARTINEAU
@ 2008-06-09 11:43           ` Heinz Mauelshagen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Heinz Mauelshagen @ 2008-06-09 11:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Antony MARTINEAU; +Cc: LVM general discussion and development, mauelshagen

On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 12:06:19PM +0200, Antony MARTINEAU wrote:
> Thanks for your answer...
> But my test show that it is, the LVM2 software the probleme...

device-mapper snapshot target actually.

> 
> Because even whith 3 writing test at the same time on 3 LV which are on 
> the same VG and the same PV, the performance are better than one LV whith 
> only one snapshot...

Sure, the write patterns for snapshots go sequentially to the disk
(i.e. read from origin, write to COW store, write to origin, ...).

> 
> Look this test:
> 
> suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=10M count=150
> 150+0 records in
> 150+0 records out
> 1572864000 bytes (1.6 GB) copied, 27.9422 seconds, 56.3 MB/s
> 
> suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test2 bs=10M count=150
> 150+0 records in
> 150+0 records out
> 1572864000 bytes (1.6 GB) copied, 33.2836 seconds, 47.3 MB/s
> 
> suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test3 bs=10M count=150
> 150+0 records in
> 150+0 records out
> 1572864000 bytes (1.6 GB) copied, 33.784 seconds, 46.6 MB/s
> 
> With 3 writing test AT THE SAME TIME , the average is better that one 
> writing test on one LV whith one snap
> 
> Look,
> 
> suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L2G -ntest.snap /dev/vg0/test
>   Logical volume "test.snap" created
> 
> suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=10M count=150
> 150+0 records in
> 150+0 records out
> 1572864000 bytes (1.6 GB) copied, 382.315 seconds, 4.1 MB/s
> 
> It is disastrous...
> 
> I think dd is a good test...

It's an extreme test like I tried to point out.

Like already mentioned: you gotta put the COW store on a seperate PV
after adding one to your vg0 (say /dev/sdb1).

E.g.:
pvcreate /dev/sdb1
vgextend vg0 /dev/sdb1
lvcreate -s -L2G -ntest.snap /dev/vg0/test /dev/sdb1

Heinz


> 
> 
> Cordialement,
> 
> 
> 
> MARTINEAU
> Antony 
> Service informatique 
> Assistant informatique 
> LIPPI Management 
> La Fouillouse
> 16440 Mouthiers sur Boheme 
> Tel.: 05.45.67.34.35
> Courriel: antony.martineau@lippi.fr
> http://www.lippi.fr 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> De :
> Heinz Mauelshagen <mauelshagen@redhat.com>
> Pour :
> LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
> Date:
> 09/06/2008 11:46
> Objet :
> Re: [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 08:03:51AM -0700, Larry Dickson wrote:
> > A (linear) volume group made of two physical volumes consists of one PV
> > followed by the other, rather like a "Raid-Linear". If you size the
> > origin logical volume right, you can get one LV (the origin) to fall on 
> one
> > disk, and force the snapshot to land on the other disk. This eliminates
> > back-and-forth seeking to the COW. Whether it solves your problem will
> > depend on how smart the driver is about the read-before-write activity 
> on
> > the origin volume.
> > 
> > Other members of the list may have more experience on this. Comments?
> 
> If I read correctly, Antony just has *ONE* PV.
> 
> So no matter what, he has to add another to allow for snapshot COW
> store allocation on that other PV, distinct from the one holding
> the origin(s). Presumably there's no other bottleneck aside from the
> disk, that'll do better.
> 
> Keep in mind, that unless you've got streaming writes, the performance
> won't drop as much as in the (artificial) dd test below.
> 
> FYI: With the current snapshot implementation, multiple snapshots per 
> single
>      origin will throttle write performance because of write duplication
>      to all per snapshot COW stores.
> 
> Heinz
> 
> > 
> > Larry
> > 
> > On 6/6/08, Antony MARTINEAU <Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > The volume group vg0 is the raid0 of two disk (SAS 15000rpm 300G0)
> > > I have only this raid on the server
> > >
> > > But i don't understand, imagine i make a volume group  ou of this 
> raid0. It
> > > is no possible to snapshot the original volume, am i wrong?
> > >
> > > If i make a new VG on another disks, For exemple /dev/vg1/
> > > LVM don't permit to store a snaphot on a different VG than the origin
> > > volum.
> > >
> > > for exemple /dev/vg0/test cant be snapshoting on /dev/vg1/test.snap
> > >
> > > LV test and LV test.snap must be on the same volume, am i wrong ???? 
> so it
> > > is impossible to store snapshot on another disk....
> > >
> > >
> > >   Cordialement,
> > >
> > >    *MARTINEAU
> > > Antony*
> > > Service informatique
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   De : "Larry Dickson" <ldickson@cuttedge.com> Pour : "LVM general
> > > discussion and development" <linux-lvm@redhat.com> Date: 06/06/2008 
> 16:19 Objet
> > > : Re: [linux-lvm] Performance tunning on LVM2
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This looks like the result of excessive seeking. Are origin volume and
> > > snapshot both on the same physical drive? Is it possible to make a 
> volume
> > > group out of two drives, and arrange things so that origin volume and
> > > snapshot are hitting different disks?
> > >
> > > Larry Dickson
> > > Cutting Edge Networked Storage
> > >
> > > On 6/6/08, *Antony MARTINEAU* 
> <*Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr*<Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > My configuration:
> > > Server DELL 2860 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU  X3230 @ 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
> > > 8GB of  memory
> > > 2 x SAS 15000 300G0 RAID 0 hardware
> > > SLES 10 SP2
> > > Kernel 2.6.16.60-0.21-xen
> > >
> > > i have one volume group vg0 ( whith one PV, the two disks in raid0) 
> whith
> > > many lvm
> > > I am very surprise about LVM2 performance when a snapshot is done.
> > > Write speed on the Original volume is very bad when a snaphot is 
> active...
> > >
> > > For exemple:
> > > *
> > > Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is NO snapshot :*
> > >
> > > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > > 400+0 records in
> > > 400+0 records out
> > > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s
> > > *
> > > Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is one snapshot of this original 
> volume :
> > > *
> > >
> > > suse2:~ # lvremove --force /dev/vg0/test3.snap
> > >  Logical volume "test3.snap" successfully removed
> > > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > > 400+0 records in
> > > 400+0 records out
> > > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s
> > > suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest.snap /dev/vg0/test
> > >  Logical volume "test.snap" created
> > > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > > 400+0 records in
> > > 400+0 records out
> > > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 204.862 seconds, 4.1 MB/s
> > >
> > > *
> > > Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is 2 snapshots of this original 
> volume :
> > > *
> > >
> > > suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest1.snap /dev/vg0/test
> > >  Logical volume "test1.snap" created
> > > suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest2.snap /dev/vg0/test
> > >  Logical volume "test2.snap" created
> > > suse2:~ # lvremove /dev/vg0/test2.snap
> > > Do you really want to remove active logical volume "test2.snap"? 
> [y/n]: y
> > >  Logical volume "test2.snap" successfully removed
> > > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > > 400+0 records in
> > > 400+0 records out
> > > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 270.928 seconds, 3.1 MB/s
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you know  some elements about tunning performance?,?
> > >
> > > Performances are disastrous when a snaphot is active
> > > Could you give your speed result? and your amelioration??
> > >
> > > ps:Results are the same whithout Kernel Xen and whith a kernel more 
> recent
> > > (*2.6.24.2* <http://2.6.24.2/>)  Cordialement,
> > >    *MARTINEAU
> > > Antony*
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