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From: "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
Cc: Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca>,
	Linux Man-Pages <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] man-pages-posix-2017/man1p/dd.1p: added missing ASCII-EBCDIC tables
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 17:20:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230813222035.a5ybcqbpnzlapraz@illithid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c68f4010-e732-6519-a777-2744eb057887@kernel.org>

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At 2023-08-13T23:30:30+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> And also, I don't even have the sources, which makes things more
> complex.
> 
> I wish that POSIX allowed us to have a copy of the original source
> code of the POSIX manual in the git repository.  With that, I'd find
> it more interesting to maintain the project again.
> 
> I'd also like to know what's the original source code of POSIX's
> manual, because it may very well be roff(7).  If that happens to be
> true, I'd like to have access to that source, instead of the HTML.

My understanding from hermetic comments to the Austin Group mailing list
over the years is that:

1. they have used groff for many years (a decade or more);
2. they don't use man(7) for their man pages (I was told this directly);

and

3. they use (a customized version of) mm(7)--or I _think_ I saw someone
   say this, but I have no citation and I am not even sure it was an
   Open Group employee who claimed it.

We fixed a bunch of bugs in GNU mm for groff 1.23.0.[1]  I wonder if
they will be cross with me about that.  Even if they didn't rely on any
erstwhile misbehavior, the source churned, some internals changed, and
if they patched the package, I wouldn't count on the patches still
applying cleanly.

> Would you mind forwarding my rage towards the Open group, which IMO is
> not so open?

Maybe scrape off the rage first, or you might get a response from Robert
Elz, who is even more cantankerous and writes at even greater length
than I do.  ;-)

Some time ago I solicited bug reports against groff from them.  So far,
nothing, unless they filed anonymously.

Regards,
Branden

[1] https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?go_report=Apply&group=groff&func=browse&set=custom&msort=0&report_id=225&advsrch=0&bug_id=&summary=&submitted_by=0&resolution_id=1&assigned_to=0&bug_group_id=0&status_id=3&severity=0&category_id=121&plan_release_id=103&history_search=0&history_field=0&history_event=modified&history_date_dayfd=13&history_date_monthfd=8&history_date_yearfd=2023&chunksz=50&spamscore=5&boxoptionwanted=1#options

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-13 22:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-13 21:01 [PATCH] man-pages-posix-2017/man1p/dd.1p: added missing ASCII-EBCDIC tables Brian Inglis
2023-08-13 21:30 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-13 22:20   ` G. Branden Robinson [this message]
2023-08-13 22:27     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-13 22:29       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-17 15:23         ` Eric Blake
2023-08-17 20:03           ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-17 20:11           ` Brian Inglis
2023-08-17 20:21           ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-17 23:49           ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-08-18 13:52             ` Eric Blake
2023-08-13 22:07 ` G. Branden Robinson

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