From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: astian <astian@memeware.net>
Cc: linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
libc-alpha@sourceware.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel.@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ioperm(2): confusing terminology
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2026 00:24:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqXOgqne-v4GtglY@devuan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DLDOCNQUCW9N.3GGL01BMV0HNG@memeware.net>
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Hi astian,
> Date: 2026-09-12 22:00:57+0000
> From: astian <astian@memeware.net>
>
> ioperm(2) says:
>
> int ioperm(unsigned long from, unsigned long num, int turn_on);
>
> ioperm() sets the port access permission bits for the calling thread
> for num bits starting from port address from. If turn_on is nonzero,
> then permission for the specified bits is enabled; otherwise it is
> disabled. [...]
>
> The use of "bits" here is confusing/sloppy.
>
> ioperm is supposed to enable or disable permission to access IO ports
> for the calling thread. In this API, the "permission bit" (singular) is
> really "turn_on": 0 to disable access, non-zero to enable. However this
> description refers also "num bits starting from port address from" and
> "the specified bits". That seems to suggest that IO ports somehow refer
> to "bits" and this API controls access permission to them, which is
> bewildering.
>
> Searching around I have seen that other versions of this manpage used to
> say "bytes" instead of "bits", which is only slightly less bewildering.
> Ports/addresses in the IO space refer neither to bits nor to bytes per
> se, they are an abstract interface, like a syscall number/index.
> (Architecturally, in some cases, these indices may in fact map to
> processor registers which may in fact be portions of a contiguous
> internal memory, so in some cases one could correctly say that the ports
> refer to "bytes" in such memory, but this is obviously all very
> low-level and microarchitecture-specific. I think being aware of such
> details actually makes this description more confusing.)
>
> Apparently the reason for this confusing description is that for Linux
> ioperm is a syscall and the kernel implements this syscall using a
> bitmap with 1 bit (permitted/denied) for each port, in a contiguous
> sequence. See ksys_ioperm in "arch/x86/kernel/ioport.c".
>
> Thus "num bits starting from port address from" actually refers to the
> bits of that bitmap: the bits [from, from+num) are set according to
> turn_on.
>
> This kind of implicit reference to implementation details is wicked.
>
> Suggested change:
>
> ioperm() sets the calling thread's access permission for num ports
> starting from port address from. If turn_on is nonzero, then
> permission for the specified ports is enabled; otherwise it is
> disabled. [...]
Hmmm, sounds reasonable. Do you want to send a patch? Or should
I write it? (I don't mind; just asking in case you want to do it.)
> PS: Oh, also, maybe the title should say "set input/output port
> permissions" instead of "set port input/output permissions".
Same here.
BTW, the manual page also says:
This call is mostly for the i386 architecture. On many
other architectures it does not exist or will always re‐
turn an error.
Is this still true?
Another issue:
EIO (on PowerPC) This call is not supported.
Is this really true? Where this is not supported, I expect ENOSYS.
And yet another thing: should we document the parameters as being
uintptr_t instead of unsigned long? They are the same exact type
always, AFAIK. Or is there any system where they aren't? If they are
the same, uintptr_t will better document that they are addresses.
Have a lovely night!
Alex
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2026-09-12 22:00 ioperm(2): confusing terminology astian
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