From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Intel Graphics Development <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dma-buf: Require VM_PFNMAP vma for mmap
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 10:06:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3d8607b4-973d-945d-c184-260157ade7c3@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uFQQkG82PzuSTGQTnN3ZNps5N_4TjR5NRWo0LaJkEaNew@mail.gmail.com>
Am 22.11.22 um 20:50 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 at 20:34, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 08:29:05PM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>> You nuke all the ptes. Drivers that move have slightly more than a
>>> bare struct file, they also have a struct address_space so that
>>> invalidate_mapping_range() works.
>> Okay, this is one of the ways that this can be made to work correctly,
>> as long as you never allow GUP/GUP_fast to succeed on the PTEs. (this
>> was the DAX mistake)
> Hence this patch, to enforce that no dma-buf exporter gets this wrong.
> Which some did, and then blamed bug reporters for the resulting splats
> :-) One of the things we've reverted was the ttm huge pte support,
> since that doesn't have the pmd_special flag (yet) and so would let
> gup_fast through.
The problem is not only gup, a lot of people seem to assume that when
you are able to grab a reference to a page that the ptes pointing to
that page can't change any more. And that's obviously incorrect.
I witnessed tons of discussions about that already. Some customers even
modified our code assuming that and then wondered why the heck they ran
into data corruption.
It's gotten so bad that I've even proposed intentionally mangling the
page reference count on TTM allocated pages:
https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/dri-devel/patch/20220927143529.135689-1-christian.koenig@amd.com/
I think it would be better that instead of having special flags in the
ptes and vmas that you can't follow them to a page structure we would
add something to the page indicating that you can't grab a reference to
it. But this might break some use cases as well.
Regards,
Christian.
> -Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-23 9:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-22 17:08 [PATCH] dma-buf: Require VM_PFNMAP vma for mmap Daniel Vetter
2022-11-22 18:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-22 18:08 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-22 18:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-22 19:29 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-22 19:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-22 19:50 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 9:06 ` Christian König [this message]
2022-11-23 9:30 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 9:39 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Christian König
2022-11-23 10:06 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 12:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 12:49 ` Christian König
2022-11-23 12:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 13:12 ` Christian König
2022-11-23 13:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 14:28 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 15:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 16:22 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 14:34 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 15:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 15:15 ` Christian König
2022-11-23 16:26 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 16:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 8:07 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-11-23 9:33 ` Daniel Vetter
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