[ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hello everybody,

Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).

This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
13th ([3]).

If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.

The event will be free of charge for attendees.

[1] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/
[2] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/
[3] https://lore.kernel.org/r/044f2fa6-a245-4ae5-b9de-7a2e8831ccd6@xs4all.nl

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Hans de Goede]

Hi Laurent,

On 25-Mar-25 11:27 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> 
> This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> 13th ([3]).
> 
> If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.

I will be in Nice and I would like to attend.

2 topics which I would like to see discussed:

1. software ISP status + future plans

2. using a single IPA with multiple pipelines.
Specifically atm my WIP atomisp pipeline-handler is re-using
the software-ISP sw stats + the software ISP "simple" IPA and
another candidate is using swstats + the simple IPA in the
uvc pipeline-handler to add autofocus to e.g. the logitech
quickcam 9000, which has a controllable focus but requires
the driver to do autofocus in software.

Note this is not really a big topic, so maybe we can find
some time before then to discuss this on the list.

Regards,

Hans

RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Hu, Jerry W]

Hi Laurent & Hans,

I will join the summit remotely. Will video conference set up for this conference? 

Would you please reserve a Topic Session for me? I will update the topic later on.  

Thanks,
-Jerry

-----Original Message-----
From: libcamera-devel <libcamera-devel-bounces@lists.libcamera.org> On Behalf Of Laurent Pinchart
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 6:28 PM
To: libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org; Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

Hello everybody,

Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).

This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the 13th ([3]).

If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.

The event will be free of charge for attendees.

[1] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/
[2] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/
[3] https://lore.kernel.org/r/044f2fa6-a245-4ae5-b9de-7a2e8831ccd6@xs4all.nl

--
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hi Jerry,

On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 12:20:16PM +0000, Hu, Jerry W wrote:
> Hi Laurent & Hans,
> 
> I will join the summit remotely. Will video conference set up for this
> conference? 

That's a very good question, which I haven't thought about. I will
inquire with the venue about remote access options, and will let you
know.

> Would you please reserve a Topic Session for me? I will update the
> topic later on.  
> 
> Thanks,
> -Jerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: libcamera-devel <libcamera-devel-bounces@lists.libcamera.org> On Behalf Of Laurent Pinchart
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 6:28 PM
> To: libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org
> Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org; Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>
> Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th
> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
> Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions
> in Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in
> Nice on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded
> Recipes ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> 
> This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop
> on the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to
> facilitate discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire.
> The Linux Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on
> Tuesday the 13th ([3]).
> 
> If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you
> would like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an
> agenda in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If
> registrations exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on
> topic submissions.
> 
> The event will be free of charge for attendees.
> 
> [1] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/
> [2] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/r/044f2fa6-a245-4ae5-b9de-7a2e8831ccd6@xs4all.nl

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Hu, Jerry W]

Thanks Laurent! 

-Jerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 8:38 PM
To: Hu, Jerry W <jerry.w.hu@intel.com>
Cc: libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org; linux-media@vger.kernel.org; Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

Hi Jerry,

On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 12:20:16PM +0000, Hu, Jerry W wrote:
> Hi Laurent & Hans,
> 
> I will join the summit remotely. Will video conference set up for this 
> conference?

That's a very good question, which I haven't thought about. I will inquire with the venue about remote access options, and will let you know.

> Would you please reserve a Topic Session for me? I will update the 
> topic later on.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Jerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: libcamera-devel <libcamera-devel-bounces@lists.libcamera.org> On 
> Behalf Of Laurent Pinchart
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 6:28 PM
> To: libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org
> Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org; Kieran Bingham 
> <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>
> Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th
> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
> Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions 
> in Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in 
> Nice on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded 
> Recipes ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> 
> This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop 
> on the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to 
> facilitate discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire.
> The Linux Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on 
> Tuesday the 13th ([3]).
> 
> If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying 
> to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you 
> would like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an 
> agenda in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If 
> registrations exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on 
> topic submissions.
> 
> The event will be free of charge for attendees.
> 
> [1] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/
> [2] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/
> [3] 
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/044f2fa6-a245-4ae5-b9de-7a2e8831ccd6@xs4all.
> nl

--
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Nicolas Dufresne]

Hello,

Le mardi 25 mars 2025 à 12:27 +0200, Laurent Pinchart a écrit :
> If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> like to include in the schedule. 

I'll be happy to participate. Topic, nothing big, maybe we can spend 20
min, I can share an update on the state of the GStreamer support, and
what is missing, and I'd ask for feedback to complete and prioritized
that part.

I'm also interested in an update from Jacopo around multi-context MC, I
don't feel to dive into sensor configuration, its pretty clear this is
what it is and will be exposed as-is through the abstractions such are
Gst (I'll make patch as soon as I have the time).

regards,
Nicolas

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Jacopo Mondi]

Hi Nicolas

On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 02:12:16PM -0400, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Le mardi 25 mars 2025 à 12:27 +0200, Laurent Pinchart a écrit :
> > If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> > to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> > like to include in the schedule.
>
> I'll be happy to participate. Topic, nothing big, maybe we can spend 20
> min, I can share an update on the state of the GStreamer support, and
> what is missing, and I'd ask for feedback to complete and prioritized
> that part.
>
> I'm also interested in an update from Jacopo around multi-context MC, I

Indeed, it was something I'm planning to propose as a discussion topic
for linux-media and I was specifically looking at discussing this with
you. Do you plan to attend linux-media, or should we set some time
aside outside of the meeting ?

> don't feel to dive into sensor configuration, its pretty clear this is
> what it is and will be exposed as-is through the abstractions such are
> Gst (I'll make patch as soon as I have the time).

Thanks, looking forward to it

>
> regards,
> Nicolas
>

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Nicolas Dufresne]

Le mercredi 26 mars 2025 à 09:13 +0100, Jacopo Mondi a écrit :
> Hi Nicolas
> 
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 02:12:16PM -0400, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Le mardi 25 mars 2025 à 12:27 +0200, Laurent Pinchart a écrit :
> > > If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> > > to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> > > like to include in the schedule.
> > 
> > I'll be happy to participate. Topic, nothing big, maybe we can spend 20
> > min, I can share an update on the state of the GStreamer support, and
> > what is missing, and I'd ask for feedback to complete and prioritized
> > that part.
> > 
> > I'm also interested in an update from Jacopo around multi-context MC, I
> 
> Indeed, it was something I'm planning to propose as a discussion topic
> for linux-media and I was specifically looking at discussing this with
> you. Do you plan to attend linux-media, or should we set some time
> aside outside of the meeting ?

Yes I will also be at the Linux Media meeting too.

> 
> > don't feel to dive into sensor configuration, its pretty clear this is
> > what it is and will be exposed as-is through the abstractions such are
> > Gst (I'll make patch as soon as I have the time).
> 
> Thanks, looking forward to it

And will be around till Sunday as GStreamer spring hackfest continues
over the weekend.

> 
> > 
> > regards,
> > Nicolas
> > 

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Niklas Söderlund]

Hi,

On 2025-03-25 12:27:50 +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> 
> This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> 13th ([3]).
> 
> If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.

If there are still seats available I would like to attend.

> 
> The event will be free of charge for attendees.
> 
> [1] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/
> [2] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/r/044f2fa6-a245-4ae5-b9de-7a2e8831ccd6@xs4all.nl
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Laurent Pinchart

-- 
Kind Regards,
Niklas Söderlund

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Andrej Gardijan]

Hello,

I'd love to attend if there are free seats available!

Kindly,
Andrej Gardijan

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hi Andrej,

On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 11:16:57AM +0200, Andrej Gardijan wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'd love to attend if there are free seats available!

There are still seats, I have added you to the attendees list.

I don't think we have interacted before, could you briefly introduce
your interest(s) in libcamera ?

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Andrej Gardijan]

Hi Laurent,

thanks a lot!
I'm currently working with communication devices with audio and video capabilities as an embedded Linux platform engineer, so I'd like to learn more about libcamera through this workshop.
I'm pretty new to it, although I'm a fan of FOSS and Linux. :D

Kindly,
Andrej Gardijan

Apr 14, 2025, 14:38 by laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com:

> Hi Andrej,
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 11:16:57AM +0200, Andrej Gardijan wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'd love to attend if there are free seats available!
>>
>
> There are still seats, I have added you to the attendees list.
>
> I don't think we have interacted before, could you briefly introduce
> your interest(s) in libcamera ?
>
> -- 
> Regards,
>
> Laurent Pinchart
>

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Devarsh Thakkar]

++linux-media, libcamera-devel.

Hi Laurent,

On 07/04/25 20:50, Devarsh Thakkar wrote:
> Hi Laurent.
> 
> Thanks a lot for organizing this.
> 
> On 25/03/25 15:57, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>> Hello everybody,
>>
>> Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
>> Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
>> on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
>> ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
>>
>> This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
>> the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
>> discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
>> Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
>> 13th ([3]).
>>
>> If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
>> to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
>> like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
>> in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
>> exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.
>>
> 
> I am very much interested to attend libcamera workshop in-person this time.
> 
> Could you please let me know if it's possible to register me and if you 
> require any additional details ?

Thank you for organizing this. As shared above, I'd be interested to 
attend this in-person. Could you please let me know if it would be 
possible to register me so that I can plan accordingly ?

Regards
Devarsh

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hello Devarsh,

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:34:14PM +0530, Devarsh Thakkar wrote:
> ++linux-media, libcamera-devel.
> 
> Hi Laurent,
> 
> On 07/04/25 20:50, Devarsh Thakkar wrote:
> > Hi Laurent.
> > 
> > Thanks a lot for organizing this.
> > 
> > On 25/03/25 15:57, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> >> Hello everybody,
> >>
> >> Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> >> Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> >> on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> >> ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> >>
> >> This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> >> the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> >> discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> >> Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> >> 13th ([3]).
> >>
> >> If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> >> to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> >> like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> >> in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> >> exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.
> > 
> > I am very much interested to attend libcamera workshop in-person this time.
> > 
> > Could you please let me know if it's possible to register me and if you 
> > require any additional details ?
> 
> Thank you for organizing this. As shared above, I'd be interested to 
> attend this in-person. Could you please let me know if it would be 
> possible to register me so that I can plan accordingly ?

I have added you to the attendees list. There is not additional
requirement, except for showing up on the day of the workshop :-) We
will share practical details closer to the event.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hi Niklas,

On Tue, Apr 08, 2025 at 07:31:14AM +0200, Niklas Söderlund wrote:
> On 2025-03-25 12:27:50 +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > Hello everybody,
> > 
> > Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> > Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> > on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> > ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> > 
> > This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> > the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> > discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> > Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> > 13th ([3]).
> > 
> > If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> > to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> > like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> > in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> > exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.
> 
> If there are still seats available I would like to attend.

I have added you to the attendees list. I'm looking forward to seeing
you in Nice.

> > The event will be free of charge for attendees.
> > 
> > [1] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/
> > [2] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/
> > [3] https://lore.kernel.org/r/044f2fa6-a245-4ae5-b9de-7a2e8831ccd6@xs4all.nl

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hi Hans,

On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 01:03:39PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> On 25-Mar-25 11:27 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > Hello everybody,
> > 
> > Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> > Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> > on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> > ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> > 
> > This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> > the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> > discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> > Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> > 13th ([3]).
> > 
> > If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> > to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> > like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> > in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> > exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.
> 
> I will be in Nice and I would like to attend.

I realized I haven't replied to acknowledge your registration, so here's
the official confirmation. We will be happy to see you in Nice. Thank
you for submitting discussion topics, we will publish the agenda draft
close to the event.

> 2 topics which I would like to see discussed:
> 
> 1. software ISP status + future plans
> 
> 2. using a single IPA with multiple pipelines.
> Specifically atm my WIP atomisp pipeline-handler is re-using
> the software-ISP sw stats + the software ISP "simple" IPA and
> another candidate is using swstats + the simple IPA in the
> uvc pipeline-handler to add autofocus to e.g. the logitech
> quickcam 9000, which has a controllable focus but requires
> the driver to do autofocus in software.
> 
> Note this is not really a big topic, so maybe we can find
> some time before then to discuss this on the list.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hi David,

On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 01:46:58PM +0000, David Plowman wrote:
> Hi Laurent
> 
> Thanks for the announcement and yes, Naush and I are planning to attend. I
> certainly fancy a couple of days in Nice, soaking up the atmosphere on the
> Promenade des Anglais! (don't tell my employer)

I realized I haven't replied to acknowledge your registration, so here's
the official confirmation. We will be happy to see you and Naush in
Nice. Thank you for submitting discussion topics, we will publish the
agenda draft close to the event.

> Some topics we'd like to cover:
> 
> 1. Bayer re-processing.
> 
> Yes, we've talked about this a number of times before. On this occasion I'd
> like to agree an outline approach that is sufficient for us to go away and
> implement something. It doesn't have to be perfect and complete, but it has
> to be enough to produce some working code that we broadly think is in the
> right direction. It should take us significantly closer to having some code
> that we can consider rolling out to Pi users.
> 
> 2. Startup frames.
> 
> Another old chestnut! I'm not really sure why it got stuck, it doesn't even
> seem to me like it should be all that controversial. It would be nice to be
> able to help Pi users on lower-spec devices by not allocating memory
> buffers that they don't have space for!
> 
> (For those who aren't familiar with this topic, the problem is that
> pipelines, ours included, may want to "swallow" a few frames when they
> start, and need to allocate extra camera buffers to do this. We'd rather
> the application buffers were used for this purpose, but it means those
> early requests would have to be flagged as "startup" aka. "do not use
> me" frames.)
> 
> 3. Per-frame controls.
> 
> We did a complete implementation for the Pi platform back in 2022, I'm sure
> some of you will recall. We'd really like to advance this again with a view
> to having something that we can give to Raspberry Pi users. I realise it
> may interact with work that was going on to split out the controls from the
> request queue, is that a topic that needs addressing?
> 
> Looking forward to seeing everyone there!
> 
> Thanks
> David
> 
> 
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 at 10:28, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> 
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> > Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> > on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> > ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> >
> > This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> > the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> > discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> > Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> > 13th ([3]).
> >
> > If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> > to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> > like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> > in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> > exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.
> >
> > The event will be free of charge for attendees.
> >
> > [1] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/
> > [2] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/
> > [3] https://lore.kernel.org/r/044f2fa6-a245-4ae5-b9de-7a2e8831ccd6@xs4all.nl

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hi Nicolas,

On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 02:12:16PM -0400, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Le mardi 25 mars 2025 à 12:27 +0200, Laurent Pinchart a écrit :
> > If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> > to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> > like to include in the schedule. 
> 
> I'll be happy to participate. Topic, nothing big, maybe we can spend 20
> min, I can share an update on the state of the GStreamer support, and
> what is missing, and I'd ask for feedback to complete and prioritized
> that part.

I realized I haven't replied to acknowledge your registration, so here's
the official confirmation. We will be happy to see you and Naush in
Nice. Thank you for submitting discussion topics, we will publish the
agenda draft close to the event.

> I'm also interested in an update from Jacopo around multi-context MC, I
> don't feel to dive into sensor configuration, its pretty clear this is
> what it is and will be exposed as-is through the abstractions such are
> Gst (I'll make patch as soon as I have the time).

As Jacopo mentioned, I expect the API to be discussed as part of the
Linux media summit on Tuesday. The implications for libcamera can be
further discussed during the libcamera workshop.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hi Jerry,

On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 02:37:38PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 12:20:16PM +0000, Hu, Jerry W wrote:
> > Hi Laurent & Hans,
> > 
> > I will join the summit remotely. Will video conference set up for this
> > conference? 
> 
> That's a very good question, which I haven't thought about. I will
> inquire with the venue about remote access options, and will let you
> know.

I have received logistics feedback from the venue. Rooms will not be
equipped with remote access infrastructure. We will bring conference
speakers and a laptop with a webcam. The internet connection bandwidth
should be sufficient, we will try our best to make remote attendance
possible (likely through Jitsi), but we can't guarantee there will be no
hiccups.

> > Would you please reserve a Topic Session for me? I will update the
> > topic later on.  
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > -Jerry
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: libcamera-devel <libcamera-devel-bounces@lists.libcamera.org> On Behalf Of Laurent Pinchart
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 6:28 PM
> > To: libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org
> > Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org; Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>
> > Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th
> > 
> > Hello everybody,
> > 
> > Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions
> > in Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in
> > Nice on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded
> > Recipes ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> > 
> > This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop
> > on the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to
> > facilitate discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire.
> > The Linux Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on
> > Tuesday the 13th ([3]).
> > 
> > If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> > to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you
> > would like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an
> > agenda in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If
> > registrations exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on
> > topic submissions.
> > 
> > The event will be free of charge for attendees.
> > 
> > [1] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/
> > [2] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/
> > [3] https://lore.kernel.org/r/044f2fa6-a245-4ae5-b9de-7a2e8831ccd6@xs4all.nl

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Benjamin Mugnier]

Hi Laurent,

On 3/25/25 11:27, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> 
> This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> 13th ([3]).
> 
> If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.

If it's not too late I'd like to attend to the libcamera workshop too :)
Unfortunately I didn't dive in libcamera yet to talk about a specific
topic. We plan to support ST sensors in libcamera, and this is a great
opportunity for me to see libcamera's evolution.

Thanks a lot.

-- 
Regards,
Benjamin

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Kieran Bingham]

Hi Laurent,

Quoting Laurent Pinchart (2025-03-25 10:27:50)
> Hello everybody,
> 
> Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> 
> This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> 13th ([3]).
> 
> If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would

I'd like to attend please ;-)

> like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.

I'd like to add a topic for :

MAINTAINERS:

We now have many separate people working on different areas of
libcamera:

 - How to clarify who is responsible for given areas of libcamera
 - Should we bring in an equivalent MAINTAINERS and
   scripts/get_maintainer.{pl,py,sh,..} file

Hopefully this can help make it clearer who's responsible for supporting
given patches and hopefully that could make it easier for contributors
to know what's required to get patches merged.

(perhaps that topic then extends to ... does everyone know what it takes
to get code merged ....)
--
Regards

Kieran


> 
> The event will be free of charge for attendees.
> 
> [1] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/
> [2] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/r/044f2fa6-a245-4ae5-b9de-7a2e8831ccd6@xs4all.nl
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hi Benjamin,

On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 12:57:37PM +0200, Benjamin Mugnier wrote:
> On 3/25/25 11:27, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > Hello everybody,
> > 
> > Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> > Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> > on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> > ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> > 
> > This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> > the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> > discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> > Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> > 13th ([3]).
> > 
> > If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> > to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> > like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> > in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> > exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.
> 
> If it's not too late I'd like to attend to the libcamera workshop too :)
> Unfortunately I didn't dive in libcamera yet to talk about a specific
> topic. We plan to support ST sensors in libcamera, and this is a great
> opportunity for me to see libcamera's evolution.
> 
> Thanks a lot.

It's not too late, you're now on the attendees list. I'll be happy to
see you there.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Josuah Demangeon]

Hello all,

First email from me on this mailing list. :)

Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:
> If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.

I am new to libcamera, I might not have a full-fleged topic to propose.

However I would be glad to occupy an empty seat as a way to introduce myself
to libcamera to understand how it can help the Zephyr RTOS, which imported
some V4L2-style APIs lately.

https://github.com/zephyrproject-rtos/zephyr/issues/82158
https://github.com/zephyrproject-rtos/zephyr/issues/86669
https://github.com/zephyrproject-rtos/zephyr/issues/87935

I might also be able to attend the Embedded Recipes and Gstreamer events.

Looking forward for it,
Josuah

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hi Joshua,

On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 04:10:45PM +0200, Josuah Demangeon wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> First email from me on this mailing list. :)

Welcome :-)

> Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:
> > If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> > to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> > like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> > in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> > exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.
> 
> I am new to libcamera, I might not have a full-fleged topic to propose.
> 
> However I would be glad to occupy an empty seat as a way to introduce myself
> to libcamera to understand how it can help the Zephyr RTOS, which imported
> some V4L2-style APIs lately.

That's an interesting topic, I've added it to the agenda.

> https://github.com/zephyrproject-rtos/zephyr/issues/82158
> https://github.com/zephyrproject-rtos/zephyr/issues/86669
> https://github.com/zephyrproject-rtos/zephyr/issues/87935
> 
> I might also be able to attend the Embedded Recipes and Gstreamer events.
> 
> Looking forward for it,

Likewise. You're now on the attendees list.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hi Joshua,

On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 04:10:45PM +0200, Josuah Demangeon wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> First email from me on this mailing list. :)

Welcome :-)

> Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:
> > If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> > to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> > like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> > in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> > exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.
> 
> I am new to libcamera, I might not have a full-fleged topic to propose.
> 
> However I would be glad to occupy an empty seat as a way to introduce myself
> to libcamera to understand how it can help the Zephyr RTOS, which imported
> some V4L2-style APIs lately.

That's an interesting topic, I've added it to the agenda.

> https://github.com/zephyrproject-rtos/zephyr/issues/82158
> https://github.com/zephyrproject-rtos/zephyr/issues/86669
> https://github.com/zephyrproject-rtos/zephyr/issues/87935
> 
> I might also be able to attend the Embedded Recipes and Gstreamer events.
> 
> Looking forward for it,

Likewise. You're now on the attendees list.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Mattijs Korpershoek]

Hi,

On mar., mars 25, 2025 at 12:27, Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
>
> This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> 13th ([3]).
>
> If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.

I don't know if there is any room left, but if there is a spot left, I'd
like to attend the libcamera workshop.

I'm sorry to be this late, my travel plans have been a bit difficult.

Thanks,
Mattijs

>
> The event will be free of charge for attendees.
>
> [1] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/
> [2] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/r/044f2fa6-a245-4ae5-b9de-7a2e8831ccd6@xs4all.nl
>
> -- 
> Regards,
>
> Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hi Mattijs,

On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 04:36:37PM +0200, Mattijs Korpershoek wrote:
> On mar., mars 25, 2025 at 12:27, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> 
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> > Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> > on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> > ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> >
> > This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> > the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> > discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> > Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> > 13th ([3]).
> >
> > If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> > to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> > like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> > in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> > exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.
> 
> I don't know if there is any room left, but if there is a spot left, I'd
> like to attend the libcamera workshop.
> 
> I'm sorry to be this late, my travel plans have been a bit difficult.

You're now on the attendees list.

> > The event will be free of charge for attendees.
> >
> > [1] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/
> > [2] https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/
> > [3] https://lore.kernel.org/r/044f2fa6-a245-4ae5-b9de-7a2e8831ccd6@xs4all.nl

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Mauro Carvalho Chehab]

Em Tue, 25 Mar 2025 12:27:50 +0200
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> escreveu:

> Hello everybody,
> 
> Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> 
> This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> 13th ([3]).
> 
> If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.

Hi Laurent,

I'm also interested on attending it.

Regards,
Mauro


Thanks,
Mauro

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hi Mauro,

On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 10:28:55AM +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Tue, 25 Mar 2025 12:27:50 +0200 Laurent Pinchart escreveu:
> 
> > Hello everybody,
> > 
> > Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> > Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> > on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> > ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> > 
> > This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> > the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> > discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> > Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> > 13th ([3]).
> > 
> > If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> > to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> > like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> > in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> > exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.
> 
> Hi Laurent,
> 
> I'm also interested on attending it.

You're now on the attendees list. We will share logistics details at the
beginning of next week.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Ricardo Ribalda Delgado]

On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 11:25 AM Laurent Pinchart
<laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Mauro,
>
> On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 10:28:55AM +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Tue, 25 Mar 2025 12:27:50 +0200 Laurent Pinchart escreveu:
> >
> > > Hello everybody,
> > >
> > > Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> > > Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> > > on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> > > ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> > >
> > > This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> > > the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> > > discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> > > Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> > > 13th ([3]).
> > >
> > > If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> > > to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> > > like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> > > in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> > > exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.
> >
> > Hi Laurent,
> >
> > I'm also interested on attending it.
>
> You're now on the attendees list. We will share logistics details at the
> beginning of next week.

If there is still room I would like to attend as well.

Regards!
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Laurent Pinchart
>


-- 
Ricardo Ribalda

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hi Ricardo,

On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 12:33:33PM +0200, Ricardo Ribalda Delgado wrote:
> On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 11:25 AM Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 10:28:55AM +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > > Em Tue, 25 Mar 2025 12:27:50 +0200 Laurent Pinchart escreveu:
> > >
> > > > Hello everybody,
> > > >
> > > > Another year, another libcamera workshop. After the previous editions in
> > > > Paris, Brussels and Vienna, we will organize the next workshop in Nice
> > > > on Friday the 16th of May. The event will be hosted by Embedded Recipes
> > > > ([1]) as part of their workshops day ([2]).
> > > >
> > > > This year, our workshop will be colocated with the Pipewire workshop on
> > > > the same day and at the same venue (but a different room), to facilitate
> > > > discussions about topics that span libcamera and Pipewire. The Linux
> > > > Media Summit will also be organized in a nearby location on Tuesday the
> > > > 13th ([3]).
> > > >
> > > > If you would like to attend, please register your interest by replying
> > > > to this e-mail, and indicate if you have any discussion topics you would
> > > > like to include in the schedule. We will draft and circulate an agenda
> > > > in the next few weeks after receiving topic proposals. If registrations
> > > > exceed our capacity, priority will be given based on topic submissions.
> > >
> > > Hi Laurent,
> > >
> > > I'm also interested on attending it.
> >
> > You're now on the attendees list. We will share logistics details at the
> > beginning of next week.
> 
> If there is still room I would like to attend as well.

You've just taken the last seat :-)

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Mario Bergeron]

Laurent,

Just wanted to know if will be possible to attend remotely ?
If yes, is there a link ?
If no, will the session be recorded ?

Thanks in advance,

Mario Bergeron

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] libcamera workshop 2025 - Nice, May 16th

[Laurent Pinchart]

Hi Mario,

On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 10:20:20PM +0300, Mario Bergeron wrote:
> Laurent,
> 
> Just wanted to know if will be possible to attend remotely ?
> If yes, is there a link ?
> If no, will the session be recorded ?

Please see
https://lists.libcamera.org/pipermail/libcamera-devel/2025-May/050272.html
for information about remote attendance. It will be a best effort setup,
as we can't guarantee the quality of the internet connection in the
conference room. The workshop will not be recorded, but we will take
notes and publish them.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart