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From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
To: Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com,
	Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com>,
	Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@ideasonboard.com>,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>,
	Jai Luthra <jai.luthra@ideasonboard.com>,
	Mehdi Djait <mehdi.djait@linux.intel.com>,
	Mattijs Korpershoek <mkorpershoek@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/29] media: v4l2-common: Add helper function media_bus_fmt_to_csi2_(bpp|dt)()
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 14:27:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <arO3rTf4vRD4OfxC@kekkonen.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD++jL=kHg-rMyQJ5_Rb0RKMq8dM4yt4HRkMG5qZ5A2J=wAQLw@mail.gmail.com>

Hej Linus,

On Fri, Aug 28, 2026 at 12:29:36AM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
> Hi Sakari/Frank,
> 
> one more thing which might be a rookie mistake on my side though:
> 
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 2:14 PM Sakari Ailus
> <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> 
> In this example:
> 
> > CSI2 data type is defined by MIPI Camera Serial Interface 2 Spec Ver4.1.
> > See section 9.4.
> >
> > Add helper function media_bus_fmt_to_csi2_dt() to convert media bus fmt to
> > MIPI defined data type and avoid below duplicated static array in each CSI2
> > drivers.
> >
> >         {
> >                 .code = MEDIA_BUS_FMT_UYVY8_1X16,
> >                 .data_type = MIPI_CSI2_DT_YUV422_8B,
> >         }
> 
> The way I read the CSI-2 spec YUV422 8bit has this byte order: U Y V Y
> (this is in section 11.2.4 in my copy of the spec, figure and all)
> so this looks correct if you just look at that string: UYVY no problem.
> 
> I tried to understand the MEDIA_BUS_FMT_* conventions...
> I looked here:
> https://docs.kernel.org/next/userspace-api/media/v4l/subdev-formats.html
> 
> And in the table in the docs:
> 
> Word 1: bit 15..8 is U, bits 7..0 is Y
> Word 2: bit 15..8 is V, bits 7..0 is Y
> 
> I *think* 1X16 should be understood as 2x16bit words (samples?) where
> each 16bit word is in LSB, MSB ("little endian") order, i.. bits 7..0 (Y)
> are transmitted *first* then bits 15..8 (U) correct me
> if I misunderstood!
> 
> Then UYVY8_1X16 becomes the *byte* order Y U Y V.
> 
> But YUYV on the other hand becomes U Y V Y !
> 
> Isn't this then MEDIA_BUS_FMT_YUYV8_1X16 ?
> 
> I'm reading the spec and Linux format codes until my eyes fall out...

Good question. The practice has been to use mbus codes ending _xXy, where y
is the pixel depth, to denote MIPI CSI-2 data types. Presumably, if a
driver uses these formats with CSI-2, then this is the MIPI CSI-2 data type
employed, even if the pixel order is different.

The entries are used to convert the mbus codes to MIPI CSI-2 data types, so
I expect no issues even if we have a data type for an mbus code that
doesn't have an exact match with the MIPI spec pixel order-wise.

> 
> It's there in the code though:
> 
> > +       { .code = MEDIA_BUS_FMT_UYVY8_1X16, .dt = MIPI_CSI2_DT_YUV422_8B, .bpp = 16 },
> > +       { .code = MEDIA_BUS_FMT_VYUY8_1X16, .dt = MIPI_CSI2_DT_YUV422_8B, .bpp = 16 },
> > +       { .code = MEDIA_BUS_FMT_YUYV8_1X16, .dt = MIPI_CSI2_DT_YUV422_8B, .bpp = 16 },
> > +       { .code = MEDIA_BUS_FMT_YVYU8_1X16, .dt = MIPI_CSI2_DT_YUV422_8B, .bpp = 16 },
> 
> all four of the related encodings, I don't know if this works in practice
> but it seems off. Three of them must be wrong since MIPI_CSI2_DT_YUV422_8B
> is very determined?
> 
> Obviously I didn't check the entire table like this, but if there is something
> to what I'm saying then we have to...

-- 
Med trevliga hälsningar,

Sakari Ailus

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-23 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-24 12:14 [PATCH v3 00/29] Rework frame descriptors Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 01/29] media: v4l2-common: Add helper function media_bus_fmt_to_csi2_(bpp|dt)() Sakari Ailus
2026-08-26 13:18   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-27  7:45     ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-27  8:50     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-08-27  9:34       ` Sakari Ailus
2026-08-27 22:29   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-23 11:27     ` Sakari Ailus [this message]
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 02/29] media: v4l2-subdev: Align frame descriptor error codes with routing Sakari Ailus
2026-08-27  7:46   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 03/29] media: v4l2-subdev: Prepare for changes in getting frame descriptors Sakari Ailus
2026-08-31 12:43   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-02 11:55     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-08-31 12:44   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-02 12:00     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 04/29] media: v4l2-subdev: Allow releasing frame descriptors on return Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 20:34   ` Frank Li
2026-08-31 12:54   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-02 11:23     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 05/29] media: v4l2-subdev: Allow allocating frame descriptors based on the need Sakari Ailus
2026-08-31 13:18   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-01 12:30     ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-23 12:11     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 06/29] media: v4l2-subdev: Change the maximum number of routes Sakari Ailus
2026-09-01 12:31   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 07/29] media: v4l2-subdev: Add frame descriptor passthrough for CSI-2 and DVP Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 20:43   ` Frank Li
2026-09-01 13:01   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-02 12:02     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-09-02 13:04       ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 08/29] media: ds90ub913: Use v4l2_subdev_get_frame_desc_passthrough_csi2() Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 20:44   ` Frank Li
2026-09-01 13:12   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-02 12:05     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 09/29] media: ds90ub953: " Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 20:44   ` Frank Li
2026-09-01 13:17   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 10/29] media: nxp: imx8-isi: " Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 20:44   ` Frank Li
2026-09-01 13:30   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 11/29] media: rzg2l-cru: " Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 20:45   ` Frank Li
2026-09-01 21:18   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-02 12:22     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 12/29] media: dw-mipi-csi2rx: " Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 20:46   ` Frank Li
2026-09-01 21:22   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 13/29] media: cdn-csi2rc: media: " Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 20:47   ` Frank Li
2026-08-26  6:41   ` Jai Luthra
2026-09-01 21:43   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-09  8:39     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 14/29] media: v4l2-subdev: Make v4l2_subdev_get_frame_desc_passthrough() static Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 20:48   ` Frank Li
2026-09-01 22:16   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 15/29] media: v4l2-subdev: Return dynamically allocated pass-through routes Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 21:00   ` Frank Li
2026-08-25  7:36     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-09-02  5:44   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-02  9:34     ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-09  9:12       ` Sakari Ailus
2026-09-09  9:10     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 16/29] media: v4l2-subdev: Always return at least one frame descriptor Sakari Ailus
2026-09-04 10:27   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 17/29] media: bcm2835-unicam: Use v4l2_subdev_get_frame_desc() Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 21:07   ` Frank Li
2026-08-25  7:40     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-09-04 10:32   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 18/29] media: bcm2835-unicam: Remove frame descriptor workaround Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 21:10   ` Frank Li
2026-08-26 12:09     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-09-04 10:43   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-09  9:26     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 19/29] media: nxp: imx8-isi: Use v4l2_subdev_get_frame_desc() Sakari Ailus
2026-09-04 12:44   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 20/29] media: raspberrypi: cfe: " Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 21:11   ` Frank Li
2026-09-04 12:51   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 21/29] media: rzg2l-cru: " Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 21:13   ` Frank Li
2026-09-04 12:57   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 22/29] media: rkisp1: " Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 21:13   ` Frank Li
2026-09-04 13:12   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-09 10:06     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 23/29] media: exynos4-is: " Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 21:22   ` Frank Li
2026-09-04 13:35   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 24/29] media: ti: cal: " Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 21:26   ` Frank Li
2026-08-25  8:05     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-09-04 13:38   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 25/29] media: ipu6: " Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 21:26   ` Frank Li
2026-09-04 20:21   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-16  8:09     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 26/29] staging: media: ipu7: " Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 21:27   ` Frank Li
2026-09-04 20:25   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 27/29] media: cdns-csi2rc: " Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 21:29   ` Frank Li
2026-08-26  6:39   ` Jai Luthra
2026-09-04 20:27   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-16  8:12     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 28/29] media: v4l2-subdev: Use v4l2_subdev_get_frame_desc() for passthrough Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 21:37   ` Frank Li
2026-08-25  7:34     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-09-04 20:38   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-16  8:22     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-09-04 20:45   ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-24 12:14 ` [PATCH v3 29/29] media: j721e-csi2rx: Use v4l2_subdev_get_frame_desc() Sakari Ailus
2026-08-24 21:38   ` Frank Li
2026-08-26  6:36   ` Jai Luthra
2026-09-04 20:54   ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-16  8:32     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-09-16 12:48       ` Jai Luthra
2026-08-26  9:58 ` [PATCH v3 00/29] Rework frame descriptors Mattijs Korpershoek
2026-09-17  8:04   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2026-09-21  8:22     ` Mattijs Korpershoek

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