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From: Vladimir Zapolskiy <vladimir_zapolskiy@mentor.com>
To: Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
	Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"A.s. Dong" <aisheng.dong@nxp.com>,
	Devicetree List <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>, ",
	linux-arm-kernel"@lists.infradead.org,
	dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@nxp.com>, ",
	Sascha Hauer" <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Fabio Estevam <fabio.estevam@nxp.com>,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	srv_heupstream <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 4/6] dt-bindings: mailbox: imx-mu: add i.MX6SX and i.MX7S SoCs.
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 14:51:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b5e54dce-582d-15d9-5f33-0f27fd1a256c@mentor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABb+yY0LbLfK2SEdTeuDmaGc+PsVn0AREQ=E=c4UZgxa5K95qQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 07/26/2018 02:46 PM, Jassi Brar wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 5:05 PM, Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de> wrote:
>> Am Donnerstag, den 26.07.2018, 16:45 +0530 schrieb Jassi Brar:
>>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Jassi,
>>>>
>>>> Am Donnerstag, den 26.07.2018, 15:25 +0530 schrieb Jassi Brar:
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Oleksij Rempel
>>>>>> <o.rempel@pengutronix.de> wrote:
>>>>>> This are currently tested SoCs with imx-mailbox driver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mailbox/fsl,mu.txt | 2 +-
>>>>>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git
>>>>>> a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mailbox/fsl,mu.txt
>>>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mailbox/fsl,mu.txt
>>>>>> index 113d6ab931ef..5616d2afca45 100644
>>>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mailbox/fsl,mu.txt
>>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mailbox/fsl,mu.txt
>>>>>> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ Messaging Unit Device Node:
>>>>>>  Required properties:
>>>>>>  -------------------
>>>>>>  - compatible : should be "fsl,<chip>-mu", the supported chips
>>>>>> include
>>>>>> -               imx8qxp, imx8qm.
>>>>>> +               imx6sx, imx7s, imx8qxp, imx8qm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not scalable. Do we add every new SoC that contains the
>>>>> same controller?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, we do. This is a policy direction from the DT maintainers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would love to read the post/documentation.
>>>
>>> Consider the same h/w - controller and platforms, but only the the MU
>>> chapter said the controller name is, say, 'MU121'. I am sure now you
>>> will see it correct to call it "fsl,mu121" compatible.
>>> What changed? just the name, right?
>>>
>>>
>>>> If we
>>>> ever going to want to validate DTs against the binding, all
>>>> compatibles
>>>> used in the DTs must be specified in the binding.
>>>>
>>>> As we can't really tell if the controller is exactly the same or
>>>> even
>>>> has some SoC integration bugs, we generally add a new compatible
>>>> for
>>>> each SoC to key off any workarounds necessary in the driver without
>>>> the
>>>> need to change the DTs, breaking compatibility.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think if the h/w resources and behaviour remain the same and the
>>> documentation does not call it by a different name -- it is safe to
>>> assume its the same IP. Especially when the driver is absolutely
>>> indifferent to the 5 SoC names.
>>
>> Even if it is the same IP core, the SoC integration might have bugs
>> that need different behavior from the driver. We've already had that
>> case with the i.MX6 SPI controller.
>>
> For h/w quirks/bugs, a new "has-that-bug" property makes better sense.
> Or, if you insist, a new compatible based on the first soc that has
> the buggy block.
> 

How do you propose to handle this property in the driver, if once flashed
DTB does not contain it?

>>> If/when we find the controller changes, we could revisit the binding
>>> and add another compatible option and modify the driver to catch that
>>> and adapt.
>>
>> That's way too late. If we want to keep DTs stable
>>
> How do you keep the DT stable by explicitly defining every new SoC to
> the compatible list in DT, _add_ to the driver.... only to have the
> driver absolutely not care which SoC is it?
> Which is the situation right now with this patchset.
> 

For sake of simplicity you can assume that a driver can be changed in
future, and SoC/board device tree bindings can not be changed ever.

--
Best wishes,
Vladimir

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-07-26 11:51 UTC|newest]

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2018-07-26 10:51     ` [PATCH v7 6/6] mailbox: Add support for i.MX7D messaging unit Oleksij Rempel
2018-07-26 11:09       ` Jassi Brar
2018-07-26 11:42         ` Oleksij Rempel
2018-07-26 12:17           ` Jassi Brar
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2018-07-26 10:57     ` [PATCH v7 3/6] dt-bindings: mailbox: imx-mu: add generic MU channel support Oleksij Rempel
2018-07-26 11:28       ` Jassi Brar
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2018-07-30  7:35                     ` Oleksij Rempel
2018-07-30  8:42                       ` A.s. Dong
2018-07-30 13:04                       ` Jassi Brar
2018-07-30 14:14                         ` A.s. Dong
2018-07-30 14:27                           ` A.s. Dong
2018-07-30 14:17                         ` A.s. Dong
2018-07-30 14:44                         ` Oleksij Rempel
2018-07-30 15:02                           ` Jassi Brar
2018-07-30 15:36                             ` A.s. Dong
2018-07-30 16:18                             ` Jassi Brar
2018-07-30 16:49                               ` Oleksij Rempel
2018-07-31  2:51                                 ` Jassi Brar
2018-07-31  7:21                               ` A.s. Dong
2018-07-31 10:15                                 ` Jassi Brar
2018-07-31 12:42                                   ` Jassi Brar
2018-08-02  9:24                                     ` A.s. Dong
2018-08-09  2:22                                       ` A.s. Dong
2018-08-09  2:55                                         ` Jassi Brar
2018-08-09  6:45                                           ` A.s. Dong
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2018-07-26 11:44         ` [PATCH v7 4/6] dt-bindings: mailbox: imx-mu: add i.MX6SX and i.MX7S SoCs Vladimir Zapolskiy
2018-07-26 11:52           ` Jassi Brar
2018-07-26 11:55             ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2018-07-26 12:10               ` Jassi Brar
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2018-07-26 12:41                   ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
     [not found]         ` <1532604937.32306.30.camel@pengutronix.de>
     [not found]           ` <CABb+yY0LbLfK2SEdTeuDmaGc+PsVn0AREQ=E=c4UZgxa5K95qQ@mail.gmail.com>
2018-07-26 11:51             ` Vladimir Zapolskiy [this message]
2018-07-26 12:00               ` Jassi Brar
2018-07-26 12:10                 ` Vladimir Zapolskiy

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