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From: Ralf Baechle <ralf@oss.sgi.com>
To: "Kevin D. Kissell" <kevink@mips.com>
Cc: <linux-mips@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: Can't build a CONFIG_CPU_NEVADA kernel
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:35:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010316203540.D2857@bacchus.dhis.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <010201c0ae49$6df089e0$0deca8c0@Ulysses>; from kevink@mips.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 07:46:23PM +0100

On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 07:46:23PM +0100, Kevin D. Kissell wrote:

> > GCC to schedule instructions for a certain processor xxx.  This does not
> > enable the full use of it's instruction set.  Back in time when I choose
> > these options I choose because GCC didn't know -mcpu=r5000 but the R8000
> > was supported and it was the closest fit.  Gcc 1.1.2 knows this option
> > so I just changed all instances of -mcpu=r8000 into -mcpu=r5000.
> 
> As I understand it, the original intention behind -mcpu was to optimise 
> instruction scheduling, but it got perverted over time to enable 
> instructions as well.  In any case, the R5000 and R8000 have the 
> same ISA, but the pipelines are radically different.  The R8K is 
> 4-way superscalar, with a 2-cycle branch penalty and branch 
> prediction.  The R5K is two way supercalar (Int/FP pairs only) 
> with classic MIPS branch behavior, etc.

Gcc's knowledge about MIPS architecture is so limited that an R5000 isn't
very much different from an R8000 ...

> > Unfortunately true but there is a reason that QED's manual marks it as an
> > proprietary extension ...
> 
> Yup.  The quesiton is, does gcc's -mmad option actually
> select based on -mcpu or some other variable which
> semantics to use, or does it assume R4650 semantics

If you have a collection which of the CPUs have implemented mmad in what
way I'd like to use that to put it into gcc.

> (I had the impression that it was the R4650 that drove
> the implementation of MIPS madd's into gcc - correct
> me if I'm wrong).

Guess that's right.

  Ralf

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From: Ralf Baechle <ralf@oss.sgi.com>
To: "Kevin D. Kissell" <kevink@mips.com>
Cc: linux-mips@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: Can't build a CONFIG_CPU_NEVADA kernel
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:35:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010316203540.D2857@bacchus.dhis.org> (raw)
Message-ID: <20010316193540.HyRswpRtx_43_ionnLzkMr69GNJKDgCtdG3S7VqEtik@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <010201c0ae49$6df089e0$0deca8c0@Ulysses>; from kevink@mips.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 07:46:23PM +0100

On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 07:46:23PM +0100, Kevin D. Kissell wrote:

> > GCC to schedule instructions for a certain processor xxx.  This does not
> > enable the full use of it's instruction set.  Back in time when I choose
> > these options I choose because GCC didn't know -mcpu=r5000 but the R8000
> > was supported and it was the closest fit.  Gcc 1.1.2 knows this option
> > so I just changed all instances of -mcpu=r8000 into -mcpu=r5000.
> 
> As I understand it, the original intention behind -mcpu was to optimise 
> instruction scheduling, but it got perverted over time to enable 
> instructions as well.  In any case, the R5000 and R8000 have the 
> same ISA, but the pipelines are radically different.  The R8K is 
> 4-way superscalar, with a 2-cycle branch penalty and branch 
> prediction.  The R5K is two way supercalar (Int/FP pairs only) 
> with classic MIPS branch behavior, etc.

Gcc's knowledge about MIPS architecture is so limited that an R5000 isn't
very much different from an R8000 ...

> > Unfortunately true but there is a reason that QED's manual marks it as an
> > proprietary extension ...
> 
> Yup.  The quesiton is, does gcc's -mmad option actually
> select based on -mcpu or some other variable which
> semantics to use, or does it assume R4650 semantics

If you have a collection which of the CPUs have implemented mmad in what
way I'd like to use that to put it into gcc.

> (I had the impression that it was the R4650 that drove
> the implementation of MIPS madd's into gcc - correct
> me if I'm wrong).

Guess that's right.

  Ralf

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-03-16 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-14 13:46 Can't build a CONFIG_CPU_NEVADA kernel Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-03-14 18:59 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-03-14 19:05   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-03-14 19:20     ` Ralf Baechle
2001-03-14 19:48       ` Jun Sun
2001-03-14 20:02         ` Ralf Baechle
2001-03-14 20:56       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-03-14 22:11       ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-03-14 22:11         ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-03-14 22:47         ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-03-14 22:47           ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-03-15  1:50           ` Pete Popov
2001-03-15  8:01             ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-03-15  8:01               ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-03-16 14:04         ` Ralf Baechle
2001-03-16 14:04           ` Ralf Baechle
2001-03-16 18:02           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-03-16 18:16             ` Ralf Baechle
2001-03-16 18:46           ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-03-16 18:46             ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-03-16 19:35             ` Ralf Baechle [this message]
2001-03-16 19:35               ` Ralf Baechle
2001-03-16 15:34         ` Ralf Baechle
2001-03-16 15:34           ` Ralf Baechle

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