From: Ralf Baechle <ralf@oss.sgi.com>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl>
Cc: Florian Lohoff <flo@rfc822.org>,
"Kevin D. Kissell" <kevink@mips.com>,
"MIPS/Linux List (SGI)" <linux-mips@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: Dumb Question on Cross-Development
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:29:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010404142950.A4214@bacchus.dhis.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1010404134018.6521B-100000@delta.ds2.pg.gda.pl>; from macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:06:22PM +0200
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:06:22PM +0200, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:06:22 +0200 (MET DST)
> From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl>
> To: Ralf Baechle <ralf@oss.sgi.com>
> cc: Florian Lohoff <flo@rfc822.org>, "Kevin D. Kissell" <kevink@mips.com>,
> "MIPS/Linux List (SGI)" <linux-mips@oss.sgi.com>
> Subject: Re: Dumb Question on Cross-Development
>
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Ralf Baechle wrote:
>
> > Brokeness starts with autoconf's AC_CHECK_SIZEOF macro implementation
> > which is used frequently throughout a whole distribution and there are
> > so many test that require actually execution of code on the target that
> > fix a whole distribution for crosscompilation and keeping it uptodate
> > is seriously double-plus un-fun.
>
> Well, I can't see any other way to check sizeof of a type. OTOH, I
> haven't seen many programs that call AC_CHECK_SIZEOF on unions or structs
> -- that's where the real problem might be as predicting member alignment
> is not always easy (especially for "evil" objects -- but if such ones
> exist the actual problem is a badly written program begging for a
> rewrite). There is no need to check sizeof for simple types -- ISO C
> <stdint.h> types might be used if a desired number of bits in a type is
> needed with a fallback to AC_CHECK_SIZEOF for legacy hosts only (which we
> don't care that much of). In short, the macro shouldn't really be used in
> most cases.
>
> I sustain the problem does not lie in the tool but in its usage.
stdint.h isn't available everywhere. Aside of that I won't object ...
Ralf
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-04-04 12:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-04-02 12:24 Dumb Question on Cross-Development Kevin D. Kissell
2001-04-02 12:24 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-04-02 13:14 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-04-02 13:14 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-04-02 19:20 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-04-02 19:20 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-04-02 21:48 ` Florian Lohoff
2001-04-02 22:22 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-04-02 22:22 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-04-02 22:30 ` Florian Lohoff
2001-04-03 2:57 ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-04-04 15:17 ` Jay Carlson
2001-04-04 15:17 ` Jay Carlson
2001-04-03 6:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-04-03 9:52 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-03 9:50 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-03 17:34 ` Jun Sun
2001-04-04 10:02 ` Florian Lohoff
2001-04-04 10:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-04-04 11:02 ` Florian Lohoff
2001-04-04 12:15 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-04 11:22 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-04 11:22 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-04 16:05 ` Florian Lohoff
2001-04-04 18:06 ` Jun Sun
2001-04-04 18:45 ` Florian Lohoff
2001-04-06 9:37 ` Wichert Akkerman
2001-04-03 9:26 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-03 15:10 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-04-04 12:06 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-04 12:29 ` Ralf Baechle [this message]
2001-04-04 13:39 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-04 14:23 ` Carsten Langgaard
2001-04-04 15:37 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-05 10:54 ` Carsten Langgaard
2001-04-05 12:05 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-05 14:35 ` Carsten Langgaard
2001-04-05 16:50 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-05 12:32 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-04-06 15:30 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-07 15:29 ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-04-09 12:16 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-02 21:56 ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-04-02 23:41 ` Binutils fixed to deal with 'insmod' issue and discussion Steven J. Hill
2001-04-03 2:17 ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-04-03 8:26 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-04-03 17:27 ` Steven J. Hill
2001-04-04 5:57 ` Andreas Jaeger
2001-04-04 16:12 ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-04-03 15:46 ` Steven J. Hill
2001-04-03 16:59 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-03 16:56 ` Steven J. Hill
2001-04-04 11:35 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
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