From: Johannes Stezenbach <js@convergence.de>
To: "Gleb O. Raiko" <raiko@niisi.msk.ru>
Cc: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl>,
"Kevin D. Kissell" <kevink@mips.com>,
linux-mips@linux-mips.org
Subject: Re: Once again: test_and_set for CPUs w/o LL/SC
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:13:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021017141302.GA2039@convergence.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3DAEBBD3.333275FC@niisi.msk.ru>
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 05:32:03PM +0400, Gleb O. Raiko wrote:
> Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 02:02:35PM +0200, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Gleb O. Raiko wrote:
> > >
> > > > Implement new sysmips then.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if that's a good idea. Glibc alone uses test_and_set(),
> > > exchange_and_add(), atomic_add() and compare_and_swap(). Do you want a
> > > separate syscall for each of these functions? I think the ll/sc emulation
> > > may be the best solution after all. At least it's most flexible and not
> > > much slower if at all.
> >
> > Depends on your usage pattern. E.g. we don't run software that uses
> > atomicity.h (i.e. no C++ code), but heavily use pthread_mutex_lock() etc.
> > The few uses of atomicity.h internal to glibc don't warrant
> > any optimizations. So, if the beql-Method would not exist, I would
> > consider implementing a new sysmips for compare_and_swap().
>
> I didn't look at newer glibc sources (read: greater than 2.0.6), so the
> question. Why is the difference between compare_and_swap and
> test_and_set so huge that it eats an exception penalty? ;-)
It is not. I wrote:
... But with LL/SC glibc can use compare-and-swap
which enables a more efficient linux-threads mutex implementation.
This is what makes the difference, at least for glibc-2.2.5. Just
grep for HAS_COMPARE_AND_SWAP in your linuxthreads sources.
Current glibc from CVS (both HEAD an 2.2 branch) doesn't use sysmips
anymore, they rely on LL/SC (emulated or not).
Regards,
Johannes
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-17 14:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-16 16:40 Once again: test_and_set for CPUs w/o LL/SC Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-07 14:47 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-07 16:21 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-07 16:21 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-07 18:43 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-07 18:51 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-10-15 17:52 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-08 7:38 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-08 7:38 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-15 15:36 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-15 17:21 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-16 12:20 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-16 12:52 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-16 16:30 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-17 9:47 ` Gleb O. Raiko
2002-10-17 12:02 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-17 13:11 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-17 13:32 ` Gleb O. Raiko
2002-10-17 14:13 ` Johannes Stezenbach [this message]
2002-10-16 18:11 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-16 18:23 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-17 11:57 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-17 13:25 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-15 15:17 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-15 16:50 ` Johannes Stezenbach
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