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From: Johannes Stezenbach <js@convergence.de>
To: "Gleb O. Raiko" <raiko@niisi.msk.ru>
Cc: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl>,
	"Kevin D. Kissell" <kevink@mips.com>,
	linux-mips@linux-mips.org
Subject: Re: Once again: test_and_set for CPUs w/o LL/SC
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:13:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021017141302.GA2039@convergence.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3DAEBBD3.333275FC@niisi.msk.ru>

On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 05:32:03PM +0400, Gleb O. Raiko wrote:
> Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 02:02:35PM +0200, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Gleb O. Raiko wrote:
> > >
> > > > Implement new sysmips then.
> > >
> > >  I'm not sure if that's a good idea.  Glibc alone uses test_and_set(),
> > > exchange_and_add(), atomic_add() and compare_and_swap().  Do you want a
> > > separate syscall for each of these functions?  I think the ll/sc emulation
> > > may be the best solution after all.  At least it's most flexible and not
> > > much slower if at all.
> > 
> > Depends on your usage pattern. E.g. we don't run software that uses
> > atomicity.h (i.e. no C++ code), but heavily use pthread_mutex_lock() etc.
> > The few uses of atomicity.h internal to glibc don't warrant
> > any optimizations. So, if the beql-Method would not exist, I would
> > consider implementing a new sysmips for compare_and_swap().
> 
> I didn't look at newer glibc sources (read: greater than 2.0.6), so the
> question. Why  is the difference between compare_and_swap and
> test_and_set so huge that it eats an exception penalty? ;-)

It is not. I wrote:
  ... But with LL/SC glibc can use compare-and-swap
  which enables a more efficient linux-threads mutex implementation.

This is what makes the difference, at least for glibc-2.2.5. Just
grep for HAS_COMPARE_AND_SWAP in your linuxthreads sources.

Current glibc from CVS (both HEAD an 2.2 branch) doesn't use sysmips
anymore, they rely on LL/SC (emulated or not).


Regards,
Johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-17 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-16 16:40 Once again: test_and_set for CPUs w/o LL/SC Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-07 14:47 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-07 16:21   ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-07 16:21     ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-07 18:43     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-07 18:51       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-10-15 17:52         ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-08  7:38       ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-08  7:38         ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-15 15:36       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-15 17:21         ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-16 12:20           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-16 12:52             ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-16 16:30               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-17  9:47                 ` Gleb O. Raiko
2002-10-17 12:02                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-17 13:11                     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-17 13:32                       ` Gleb O. Raiko
2002-10-17 14:13                         ` Johannes Stezenbach [this message]
2002-10-16 18:11         ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-16 18:23           ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-17 11:57           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-17 13:25             ` Johannes Stezenbach
2002-10-15 15:17     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-15 16:50       ` Johannes Stezenbach

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