From: "Mike Uhler" <uhler@mips.com>
To: justinca@cs.cmu.edu
Cc: linux-mips@linux-mips.org
Cc: uhler@mips.com
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: unaligned load in branch delay slot
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:39:48 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200301282139.h0SLdmf29392@uhler-linux.mips.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "28 Jan 2003 16:30:09 EST." <1043789409.23571.12.camel@gs256.sp.cs.cmu.edu>
> On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 14:48, Mike Uhler wrote:
>
> > If the patch assumes that one can look backward by one instruction
> > in the STATIC code to determine if the instruction is in a
> > delay slot, one can not have code that jumps directly to the
> > instruction following another branch, as this would cause the
> > code to assume that it was in the delay slot of the branch.
>
> A while back, when working on a different architecture that also had
> branch delay slots, it took me a while to get my head around the
> branch-in-a-delay-slot case, e.g.
>
>
> 10: b 100
> 20: b 30
> 30: foo
> ...
> 100: bar
>
> where the actual program flow would be
>
> 10
> 20
> 100
> 30
>
> and instruction 100 would be considered to be in the delay slot of 20.
>
> I was *very* happy when I first looked at MIPS to see that this was
> specified as unpredictable, even if it was pretty cool to be able to
> make the CPU execute a single instruction in the middle of nowhere.
> Pointless, but cool. :)
I presume that you're talking about Sparc, where such a construct is
used to execute a single instruction out of a table. This is, in
fact, very, very unpredictable on a MIPS implementation, ranging from
reserved instruction, to branching to one of the two branch targets,
to wandering off into hyperspace. So please do not assume that because
a particular implementation does something that all implementations
do the same thing. In this particular case, I can guarantee you that
you won't like the answer you get.
/gmu
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From: "Mike Uhler" <uhler@mips.com>
To: justinca@cs.cmu.edu
Cc: linux-mips@linux-mips.org, uhler@mips.com
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: unaligned load in branch delay slot
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:39:48 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200301282139.h0SLdmf29392@uhler-linux.mips.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20030128213948.mRIfKnpcPJyFKYdZAitELlI3VqRJUv6l6rjRPNWijzQ@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "28 Jan 2003 16:30:09 EST." <1043789409.23571.12.camel@gs256.sp.cs.cmu.edu>
> On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 14:48, Mike Uhler wrote:
>
> > If the patch assumes that one can look backward by one instruction
> > in the STATIC code to determine if the instruction is in a
> > delay slot, one can not have code that jumps directly to the
> > instruction following another branch, as this would cause the
> > code to assume that it was in the delay slot of the branch.
>
> A while back, when working on a different architecture that also had
> branch delay slots, it took me a while to get my head around the
> branch-in-a-delay-slot case, e.g.
>
>
> 10: b 100
> 20: b 30
> 30: foo
> ...
> 100: bar
>
> where the actual program flow would be
>
> 10
> 20
> 100
> 30
>
> and instruction 100 would be considered to be in the delay slot of 20.
>
> I was *very* happy when I first looked at MIPS to see that this was
> specified as unpredictable, even if it was pretty cool to be able to
> make the CPU execute a single instruction in the middle of nowhere.
> Pointless, but cool. :)
I presume that you're talking about Sparc, where such a construct is
used to execute a single instruction out of a table. This is, in
fact, very, very unpredictable on a MIPS implementation, ranging from
reserved instruction, to branching to one of the two branch targets,
to wandering off into hyperspace. So please do not assume that because
a particular implementation does something that all implementations
do the same thing. In this particular case, I can guarantee you that
you won't like the answer you get.
/gmu
--
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
Michael Uhler, VP, Systems, Architecture, and Software Products
MIPS Technologies, Inc. Email: uhler@mips.com Pager: uhler_p@mips.com
1225 Charleston Road Voice: (650)567-5025 FAX: (650)567-5225
Mountain View, CA 94043 Mobile: (650)868-6870 Admin: (650)567-5085
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-01-28 21:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-01-13 16:13 unaligned load in branch delay slot Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-01-13 17:19 ` Mike Uhler
2003-01-13 17:19 ` Mike Uhler
2003-01-13 18:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-01-13 20:12 ` Mike Uhler
2003-01-13 20:12 ` Mike Uhler
2003-01-28 2:39 ` Ralf Baechle
2003-01-28 9:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-01-28 11:47 ` Ralf Baechle
2003-01-28 12:27 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-01-29 1:39 ` Brad Parker
2003-01-29 6:40 ` Ralf Baechle
2003-01-28 12:30 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-01-28 12:54 ` Ralf Baechle
2003-01-28 17:53 ` Jun Sun
2003-01-28 19:48 ` Mike Uhler
2003-01-28 19:48 ` Mike Uhler
2003-01-28 21:30 ` [OT] " justinca
2003-01-28 21:39 ` Mike Uhler [this message]
2003-01-28 21:39 ` Mike Uhler
2003-01-29 14:25 ` Ralf Baechle
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