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* Name the external domain
@ 1997-05-30 22:32 Ariel Faigon
  1997-05-30 22:32 ` Ariel Faigon
                   ` (3 more replies)
  0 siblings, 4 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Ariel Faigon @ 1997-05-30 22:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux; +Cc: Vernon Schryver, David Marc Katinsky

Hi Linuxies,

Next Wednesday we are finally going to have our external
linux machine online.  As it turns out the networking
gurus (vernon) require us to use a third level domain
for very good reasons, so we cannot call the machine
"linux.sgi.com".

We want a domain name that's cool, friendly to outside
people, entertaining, that doesn't sound too official
and that's scalable" (general enough to put more
"share with the world" hostnames under it in the future.

I hate to start a long thread but this name will last
for many years so I cannot have my fascist opinion rule
here.  Here's what people suggested so far:

	[linux.] outside.sgi.com
	[linux.] unchained.sgi.com
	[linux.] untied.sgi.com
	[linux.] at.sgi.com
	[linux.] friends.sgi.com

Lets have some more suggestions and then vote on this.
We need to give Vernon a name soon.
-- 
Peace, Ariel

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* Name the external domain
  1997-05-30 22:32 Ariel Faigon
@ 1997-05-30 22:32 ` Ariel Faigon
  1997-05-30 22:36 ` David S. Miller
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Ariel Faigon @ 1997-05-30 22:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux; +Cc: Vernon Schryver, David Marc Katinsky

Hi Linuxies,

Next Wednesday we are finally going to have our external
linux machine online.  As it turns out the networking
gurus (vernon) require us to use a third level domain
for very good reasons, so we cannot call the machine
"linux.sgi.com".

We want a domain name that's cool, friendly to outside
people, entertaining, that doesn't sound too official
and that's scalable" (general enough to put more
"share with the world" hostnames under it in the future.

I hate to start a long thread but this name will last
for many years so I cannot have my fascist opinion rule
here.  Here's what people suggested so far:

	[linux.] outside.sgi.com
	[linux.] unchained.sgi.com
	[linux.] untied.sgi.com
	[linux.] at.sgi.com
	[linux.] friends.sgi.com

Lets have some more suggestions and then vote on this.
We need to give Vernon a name soon.
-- 
Peace, Ariel

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* Re: Name the external domain
  1997-05-30 22:32 Ariel Faigon
  1997-05-30 22:32 ` Ariel Faigon
@ 1997-05-30 22:36 ` David S. Miller
  1997-05-30 22:39 ` Mike Shaver
  1997-05-30 22:51 ` richard offer
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: David S. Miller @ 1997-05-30 22:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ariel; +Cc: linux, vjs, dmk


brft.sgi.com  (ie. Big Red FireTruck)

---------------------------------------------////
Yow! 11.26 MB/s remote host TCP bandwidth & ////
199 usec remote TCP latency over 100Mb/s   ////
ethernet.  Beat that!                     ////
-----------------------------------------////__________  o
David S. Miller, davem@caip.rutgers.edu /_____________/ / // /_/ ><

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* Re: Name the external domain
  1997-05-30 22:32 Ariel Faigon
  1997-05-30 22:32 ` Ariel Faigon
  1997-05-30 22:36 ` David S. Miller
@ 1997-05-30 22:39 ` Mike Shaver
  1997-06-02  6:43   ` Martin Knoblauch
  1997-05-30 22:51 ` richard offer
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Mike Shaver @ 1997-05-30 22:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ariel; +Cc: linux, vjs, dmk

Thus spake Ariel Faigon:
> 	[linux.] at.sgi.com

I don't like this one very much, if only because it's hard to explain
verbally.  ('at' vs. '@', etc.)

.unchained.sgi.com isn't bad, although I understand that we might be
able to get some funding from Marketing if we used .cosmo.sgi.com. =)

Mike

-- 
#> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation 
#>                   Welcome to the technocracy.
#>                                                                     
#> "you'd be so disappointed
#>              to find out that the magic was not
#>                          really meant for you" - OLP

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* Re: Name the external domain
@ 1997-05-30 22:44 Larry McVoy
  1997-05-30 23:12 ` Ariel Faigon
  1997-06-02  6:44 ` Martin Knoblauch
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Larry McVoy @ 1997-05-30 22:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David S. Miller; +Cc: ariel, linux

OK, I got a better idea.  Make the top level domain linux.sgi.com and
the machine[s] stuff like

	linus.linux.sgi.com	# because we like him (alias)
	ftp.linux.sgi.com	# because people will remember it (alias)
	www.linux.sgi.com	# alias
	linux.linux.sgi.com	# real machine

Watcha all think?

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* Re: Name the external domain
  1997-05-30 22:32 Ariel Faigon
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  1997-05-30 22:39 ` Mike Shaver
@ 1997-05-30 22:51 ` richard offer
  1997-05-30 23:04   ` Bob Mende Pie
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: richard offer @ 1997-05-30 22:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux


* $ from ariel@yon at "30-May: 3:32pm" | sed "1,$s/^/* /"
*
*
* Hi Linuxies,
*

I like....

* 	[linux.] friends.sgi.com

Or alternativley

	coffeehouse.sgi.com [probably too long]
	beach.sgi.com

[fill in the appropriate location where you hang out with your friends]

*
* Lets have some more suggestions and then vote on this.
* We need to give Vernon a name soon.
* --
* Peace, Ariel
*

richard.


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* Re: Name the external domain
  1997-05-30 22:51 ` richard offer
@ 1997-05-30 23:04   ` Bob Mende Pie
       [not found]     ` <mende@piecomputer.engr.sgi.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bob Mende Pie @ 1997-05-30 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: offer; +Cc: linux


Given that what Vernon is looking for is a domain for those hosts that are
	outside of the firewall 
		(yet inside of the packet filter) 
	that dont provide well known service names 
		(www.sgi.com, ftp.sgi.com) 

I was thought of the strip of land around a castle that is between the
outer wall and the moat.   According to the "Castles on the web glossary" 
http://fox.nstn.ca/~tmonk/castle/glossary.html this strip of land is called
the berm.

                              /Bob...                    mailto:mende@sgi.com
                        http://reality.sgi.com/mende/          KF6EID

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* Re: Name the external domain
  1997-05-30 22:44 Name the external domain Larry McVoy
@ 1997-05-30 23:12 ` Ariel Faigon
  1997-05-30 23:12   ` Ariel Faigon
  1997-06-02  6:44 ` Martin Knoblauch
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Ariel Faigon @ 1997-05-30 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Larry McVoy; +Cc: davem, ariel, linux

:
:OK, I got a better idea.  Make the top level domain linux.sgi.com and
:the machine[s] stuff like
:
:	linus.linux.sgi.com	# because we like him (alias)

linus.youre-hired.sgi.com (well, we tried :-)  (*)


:	ftp.linux.sgi.com	# because people will remember it (alias)
:	www.linux.sgi.com	# alias
:	linux.linux.sgi.com	# real machine
:
:Watcha all think?
:

Except for the fact that this is not scalable beyond linux stuff
I like it.  It is certainly the easiest to remember and we can always
add entertaining names/aliases at the hostname level.  'friends' was my
next favorite.

If everyone agrees (and vernon doesn't object) I think we should go
with Larry's scheme.

(*) and we haven't gave up yet.
-- 
Peace, Ariel

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* Re: Name the external domain
  1997-05-30 23:12 ` Ariel Faigon
@ 1997-05-30 23:12   ` Ariel Faigon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Ariel Faigon @ 1997-05-30 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Larry McVoy; +Cc: davem, ariel, linux

:
:OK, I got a better idea.  Make the top level domain linux.sgi.com and
:the machine[s] stuff like
:
:	linus.linux.sgi.com	# because we like him (alias)

linus.youre-hired.sgi.com (well, we tried :-)  (*)


:	ftp.linux.sgi.com	# because people will remember it (alias)
:	www.linux.sgi.com	# alias
:	linux.linux.sgi.com	# real machine
:
:Watcha all think?
:

Except for the fact that this is not scalable beyond linux stuff
I like it.  It is certainly the easiest to remember and we can always
add entertaining names/aliases at the hostname level.  'friends' was my
next favorite.

If everyone agrees (and vernon doesn't object) I think we should go
with Larry's scheme.

(*) and we haven't gave up yet.
-- 
Peace, Ariel

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* Re: Name the external domain
  1997-05-30 22:39 ` Mike Shaver
@ 1997-06-02  6:43   ` Martin Knoblauch
  1997-06-03  6:19     ` Raj Mathur
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Martin Knoblauch @ 1997-06-02  6:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Shaver; +Cc: ariel, linux, vjs, dmk

Mike Shaver wrote:
> 
> Thus spake Ariel Faigon:
> >       [linux.] at.sgi.com
> 
> I don't like this one very much, if only because it's hard to explain
> verbally.  ('at' vs. '@', etc.)
> 
> .unchained.sgi.com isn't bad, although I understand that we might be
> able to get some funding from Marketing if we used .cosmo.sgi.com. =)
> 

 Unlikely, unless you mean the compression guys :-( The Cosmo
types have already been assimilated by the dark force.

 What is wrong with calling the external domain "linux.sgi.com"
and then find a cool host name (like "penguin")?

Martin
-- 
Check out the DevForum 97  !!!! (http://www.sgi.com/Forum97/)
  If you miss it, you'll never forgive yourself. Neither will I :-)
+---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
|Martin Knoblauch                 | Silicon Graphics GmbH             |
|Manager Technical Marketing      | Am Hochacker 3 - Technopark       |
|Silicon Graphics Computer Systems| D-85630 Grasbrunn-Neukeferloh, FRG|
|---------------------------------| Phone: (+int) 89 46108-179 or -0  |
|http://reality.sgi.com/knobi     | Fax:   (+int) 89 46107-179        |
+---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
|e-mail: <knobi@munich.sgi.com>   | VM: 6-333-8197 | M/S: IDE-3150    |
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* Re: Name the external domain
  1997-05-30 22:44 Name the external domain Larry McVoy
  1997-05-30 23:12 ` Ariel Faigon
@ 1997-06-02  6:44 ` Martin Knoblauch
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Martin Knoblauch @ 1997-06-02  6:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Larry McVoy; +Cc: David S. Miller, ariel, linux

Larry McVoy wrote:
> 
> OK, I got a better idea.  Make the top level domain linux.sgi.com and
> the machine[s] stuff like
> 
>         linus.linux.sgi.com     # because we like him (alias)
>         ftp.linux.sgi.com       # because people will remember it (alias)
>         www.linux.sgi.com       # alias
>         linux.linux.sgi.com     # real machine
> 
> Watcha all think?


 excellent.

Martin
-- 
Check out the DevForum 97  !!!! (http://www.sgi.com/Forum97/)
  If you miss it, you'll never forgive yourself. Neither will I :-)
+---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
|Martin Knoblauch                 | Silicon Graphics GmbH             |
|Manager Technical Marketing      | Am Hochacker 3 - Technopark       |
|Silicon Graphics Computer Systems| D-85630 Grasbrunn-Neukeferloh, FRG|
|---------------------------------| Phone: (+int) 89 46108-179 or -0  |
|http://reality.sgi.com/knobi     | Fax:   (+int) 89 46107-179        |
+---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
|e-mail: <knobi@munich.sgi.com>   | VM: 6-333-8197 | M/S: IDE-3150    |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+

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* Re: Name the external domain
       [not found]     ` <mende@piecomputer.engr.sgi.com>
@ 1997-06-02 17:58       ` Christopher W. Carlson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Christopher W. Carlson @ 1997-06-02 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux

On May 30,  4:04pm, Bob Mende Pie wrote:
> Subject: Re: Name the external domain
>
> Given that what Vernon is looking for is a domain for those hosts that are
> 	outside of the firewall
> 		(yet inside of the packet filter)
> 	that dont provide well known service names
> 		(www.sgi.com, ftp.sgi.com)
>
> I was thought of the strip of land around a castle that is between the
> outer wall and the moat.   According to the "Castles on the web glossary"
> http://fox.nstn.ca/~tmonk/castle/glossary.html this strip of land is called
> the berm.
>
>                               /Bob...                    mailto:mende@sgi.com
>                         http://reality.sgi.com/mende/          KF6EID
>-- End of excerpt from Bob Mende Pie


This is my favorite!

-- 

		Chris Carlson

	+------------------------------------------------------+
	| Also, carlson@sgi.com                                |
	|   Work:       (714) 756-5976     SGI vmail: 678-4530 |
	|   FAX:        (714) 833-9503                         |
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	| human brain and a bowl of quivering lime Jell-O have |
	| the same waves.  [Time Magazine, Mar 17, 1997]       |
	+------------------------------------------------------+

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* Re: Name the external domain
  1997-06-02  6:43   ` Martin Knoblauch
@ 1997-06-03  6:19     ` Raj Mathur
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Raj Mathur @ 1997-06-03  6:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin Knoblauch; +Cc: Mike Shaver, ariel, linux, vjs, dmk

>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Knoblauch <knobi@munich.sgi.com> writes:

    Martin> [snip]

    Martin>  What is wrong with calling the external domain
    Martin> "linux.sgi.com" and then find a cool host name (like
    Martin> "penguin")?

Even better, call the domain "penguin.sgi.com" and then have machines
like "linux.penguin.sgi.com" ... Friendly enough for me :)

-- Raju
--
       Raj Mathur / Web Technical Support / Silicon Graphics / New Delhi
         +91-11-6216324/25, 6211354/55   /    raju@sgi.com  / 7228
            http://reality.sgi.com/raju / It is the Mind that Moves
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