able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Joan Eslinger]

So, I've had an old Indy in my office, waiting for me to try installing
Linux on in my spare time, and today I finally got around to it. Lucky
for me I didn't try before today, because the kernel that finally worked
was the very latest, vmlinux-indy-990212.

After the one in the big hardhat tar.gz file didn't work (no R4400SC
support) I hit the mailing list archive, found the pointer to
vmlinux-2.1.131 (which didn't work because it didn't have NFS), noticed
also vmlinux-sc-indy-2.1.116 (also didn't work, probably also no NFS),
and tried a couple of others while going through the archive.
vmlinux-indy-990205 got a little farther, but complained it couldn't
make a device node in the ram disk or some such thing.

Anyway, vmlinux-indy-990212 was the winner: it booted up into the
installer, I was able to do a complete install (ignoring swap, as web
page says), and it's up and running. I'm sending this out to let those
who've been having trouble with Indy/R4400SC know that it can be done
now!

Re: able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Eric Melville]

drats... that's the kernel (er, one of the kernels) that hangs on
"freeing unused kernel memory" for me :(

-E

> So, I've had an old Indy in my office, waiting for me to try installing
> Linux on in my spare time, and today I finally got around to it. Lucky
> for me I didn't try before today, because the kernel that finally worked
> was the very latest, vmlinux-indy-990212.
> 
> After the one in the big hardhat tar.gz file didn't work (no R4400SC
> support) I hit the mailing list archive, found the pointer to
> vmlinux-2.1.131 (which didn't work because it didn't have NFS), noticed
> also vmlinux-sc-indy-2.1.116 (also didn't work, probably also no NFS),
> and tried a couple of others while going through the archive.
> vmlinux-indy-990205 got a little farther, but complained it couldn't
> make a device node in the ram disk or some such thing.
> 
> Anyway, vmlinux-indy-990212 was the winner: it booted up into the
> installer, I was able to do a complete install (ignoring swap, as web
> page says), and it's up and running. I'm sending this out to let those
> who've been having trouble with Indy/R4400SC know that it can be done
> now!

Re: able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Alex deVries]

On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Joan Eslinger wrote:
> Anyway, vmlinux-indy-990212 was the winner: it booted up into the
> installer, I was able to do a complete install (ignoring swap, as web
> page says), and it's up and running. I'm sending this out to let those
> who've been having trouble with Indy/R4400SC know that it can be done
> now!

Okay, that's cool.  Could you give us an output from your irix's hinv?

- Alex

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Re: able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Joan Eslinger]

Right, meant to do that the first time and forgot:

In IRIX,
% hinv
Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0
1 175 MHZ IP22 Processor
FPU: MIPS R4000 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 0.0
CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 6.0
On-board serial ports: 2
On-board bi-directional parallel port
Data cache size: 16 Kbytes
Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte on Processor 0
Main memory size: 64 Mbytes
Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam not connected
Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0
Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D
  Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0
  Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
Graphics board: Indy 24-bit


In Linux,
% cat /proc/cpuinfo
cpu                     : MIPS
cpu model               : R4000SC V6.0
system type             : SGI Indy
BogoMIPS                : 87.24
byteorder               : big endian
unaligned accesses      : 0
wait instruction        : no
microsecond timers      : no
extra interrupt vector  : no
hardware watchpoint     : yes
VCED exceptions         : 12424
VCEI exceptions         : 37454

Re: able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Eric Melville]

wait a sec, this is almost identical to mine! R4400 revision 6.0 ... the
only difference i see is that mine was 200 mhz. what's up with this?
please, i'd love to get this thing booted so that i can start helping
with the porting efforts!

-E

> % hinv
> Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0
> 1 175 MHZ IP22 Processor
> FPU: MIPS R4000 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 0.0
> CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 6.0
> On-board serial ports: 2
> On-board bi-directional parallel port
> Data cache size: 16 Kbytes
> Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes
> Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte on Processor 0
> Main memory size: 64 Mbytes
> Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam not connected
> Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0
> Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1
> Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D
>   Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0
>   Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
> Graphics board: Indy 24-bit

Re: able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Thomas Bogendoerfer]

On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 10:54:41PM -0800, Eric Melville wrote:
> wait a sec, this is almost identical to mine! R4400 revision 6.0 ... the
> only difference i see is that mine was 200 mhz. what's up with this?
> please, i'd love to get this thing booted so that i can start helping
> with the porting efforts!

I doubt, that your problem is clock rate related. What does your
NFS root look like. Are you using the HardHat root filesystem ?
What type of NFS box are you using ?

Thomas.

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Re: able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Eric Melville]

the file system came straight from hardhat. it all appears to be normal,
and the indy appears to mount the nfs root just fine. the system
exporting nfs is an x86 linux box.

-E

> I doubt, that your problem is clock rate related. What does your
> NFS root look like. Are you using the HardHat root filesystem ?
> What type of NFS box are you using ?

Re: able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Eric Melville]

it says ---

offset = 0
offset = 1
offset = 2
offset = 3
offset = 0
offset = 1
offset = 2

etc etc etc

???????

-E

> I had encountered a problem once with a bad R4400 CPU (only one)
> incorrectly loading halfword (16-bit) values from memory.  The
> following uuencoded gzipped mips2 binary mallocs lines of four
> halfwords, loads it with a certain bit pattern, and then in a loop
> checks all 0th halfwords, then all 1st, then 2nd, then 3rd.  (I had
> problems with the 3rd halfwords.)
> 
> Boot up IRIX and give it a try.  If it prints out anything other
> than "offset = 0", etc., then there is a problem.  (You could probably run
> it under miniroot as well.)  It was built on 6.2.

Re: able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Chad Carlin]

I got my 200MHz R4400 working too. Yes it actually boots. I guess you guys
weren't making all this stuff up after all.

I have one problem though. Something is broken in modules. The networking
stuff is working incorrectly because of this. When I try to telnet in from
another host, the linux-indy panics. I can hand copy more verbose
information when I get home if this is not a common problem that everyone
else knows the answer to.

Almost there.
Chad


Alex deVries wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Joan Eslinger wrote:
> > Anyway, vmlinux-indy-990212 was the winner: it booted up into the
> > installer, I was able to do a complete install (ignoring swap, as web
> > page says), and it's up and running. I'm sending this out to let those
> > who've been having trouble with Indy/R4400SC know that it can be done
> > now!
>
> Okay, that's cool.  Could you give us an output from your irix's hinv?
>
> - Alex
>
> --
> Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet.
> I know exactly what I want in life.

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Re: able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Eric Melville]

does your hinv say R4400 revision 6.0? if so, let me know which kernel
you've booted, because i havn't found any that don't hang during boot :(

-E

> I got my 200MHz R4400 working too. Yes it actually boots. I guess you guys
> weren't making all this stuff up after all.

Re: able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Mark A. Zottola]

Actually we are running into the same problem as we attempt to port Linux to the
Indigo2. Does anyone know where we can get the list of errata for the R4400
revision 6.0? That info is not currently available upon SGI's web pages... Any
pointers to this information (or a copy of same) would be greatly appreciated!

Mark

Eric Melville wrote:

> does your hinv say R4400 revision 6.0? if so, let me know which kernel
> you've booted, because i havn't found any that don't hang during boot :(
>
> -E
>
> > I got my 200MHz R4400 working too. Yes it actually boots. I guess you guys
> > weren't making all this stuff up after all.

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Re: able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Chad Carlin]

Ralf,

On closer observation......

The message in the syslog is as follows:
kernel: kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k net-pf-N, errno = 2

ls -l /sbin/modprobe
.....No such file or directory

Obviously, I need modprobe. I wonder how I didn't get modprobe?

Other info:
uname -r  = 2.1.131

cat /proc/cpuinfo

cpu: MIPS
cpu model: R4000SC V6.0
system type: SGI Indy
BogoMIPS: 99.94
........

Let me know if you want to see more.




ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 12:14:22PM -0600, Chad Carlin wrote:
>
> > I got my 200MHz R4400 working too. Yes it actually boots. I guess you guys
> > weren't making all this stuff up after all.
> >
> > I have one problem though. Something is broken in modules. The networking
> > stuff is working incorrectly because of this. When I try to telnet in from
> > another host, the linux-indy panics. I can hand copy more verbose
> > information when I get home if this is not a common problem that everyone
> > else knows the answer to.
>
> I'd appreciate a more detailed bug report with all the messages you got.
> Which kernel binary exactly were you using?
>
>   Ralf

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Re: able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Chad Carlin]

Ok. Somebody shoot me. I went through and reinstalled linux on my Indy. I
thought that I screwed up and somehow did not get modutils-x.x.x-x because
I chose to install the wrong package set. I think I was wrong there too.

Problem:
- modutils-x.x.x-x does not get installed by the base installer. (or I
don't know which one it goes with)
- Can't get this package over the network because if I try to use my
network interface, the system panics. It panics because I don't have
modutils.
- BTW howto-french-5.1.1 seems to be corrupted in the distribution. My indy
always hangs when trying to install it. Hence, I have to deselect
optional-documentation during install.

Thanks for any help. I'm feel like I'm so close here.

Chad


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Re: able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Alex deVries]

On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Chad Carlin wrote:
> Ok. Somebody shoot me. I went through and reinstalled linux on my Indy. I
> thought that I screwed up and somehow did not get modutils-x.x.x-x because
> I chose to install the wrong package set. I think I was wrong there too.
> 
> Problem:
> - modutils-x.x.x-x does not get installed by the base installer. (or I
> don't know which one it goes with)

Yup. modutils was broken at the time when Rough Cuts was put together.
Theres a newer package that does work on the ftp site.

> - Can't get this package over the network because if I try to use my
> network interface, the system panics. It panics because I don't have
> modutils.

Why do you need modules to get your network going?

> - BTW howto-french-5.1.1 seems to be corrupted in the distribution. My indy
> always hangs when trying to install it. Hence, I have to deselect
> optional-documentation during install.

We know that. :)

- Alex

Re: able to bootp/NFS-install/reboot R4400SC Indy

[Chad Carlin]

Alex,

I get this error message in my syslog.
kernel: kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k net-pf-N, errno = 2

/sbin/modprobe is not on my system. Why is it trying to execute? According to
rpm -qf /sbin/modprobe on my intel-Linux system, this executable gets installed
with modutils. I am jumping to a conclusion that this error message is telling
me why networking is not running properly. More specifically, I have tried
rlogin, telnet, ftp and nfs. All of these panic the system.

I grabbed
ftp://linus.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/hardhat/5.2/RPMS/mipseb/modutils-2.1.121-4.mipseb.rpm
and put that in with the other rpms in my installation nfs filesystem. It didn't
get picked up during my nfsroot install. I guess I need to look at  some sort of
installation script to find where it get's it's list of packages to install.

Heck, I might be barking up the wrong tree after all.

Thanks,
Chad



Alex deVries wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Chad Carlin wrote:
> > Ok. Somebody shoot me. I went through and reinstalled linux on my Indy. I
> > thought that I screwed up and somehow did not get modutils-x.x.x-x because
> > I chose to install the wrong package set. I think I was wrong there too.
> >
> > Problem:
> > - modutils-x.x.x-x does not get installed by the base installer. (or I
> > don't know which one it goes with)
>
> Yup. modutils was broken at the time when Rough Cuts was put together.
> Theres a newer package that does work on the ftp site.
>
> > - Can't get this package over the network because if I try to use my
> > network interface, the system panics. It panics because I don't have
> > modutils.
>
> Why do you need modules to get your network going?
>
> > - BTW howto-french-5.1.1 seems to be corrupted in the distribution. My indy
> > always hangs when trying to install it. Hence, I have to deselect
> > optional-documentation during install.
>
> We know that. :)
>
> - Alex

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