Re: MIPS kernel!

Re: MIPS kernel!

[Kevin D. Kissell]

> I tried to cross compile the kernel from ftp.embedix.com, meaning that
> I found that this embedix Linux is made to work on any platform . I have
> an Atlas board and a QED processsor (  a mips one ) and I fail in trying
> to cross compile the linux-2.2.13. I get the following errors.
...
[errors snipped] 
...
> Another weird thing . When I received my Atlas board I gqt a CD with the
> kernel sources and binaries. I installed the binaries on the Atlas board
> and it works fine but when I tried to cross compile the kernel I get
> some stupid errors like the one above. I realy do not understand
> anything , does anyone cross compiled a kernele for MIPS processors and
> Atlas boards ? The version is linux 2.2.12.( the Hard Hat Linux ).

In general, at MIPS, we generally build native or semi-native
(mipsel on mipseb machines and vice versa).  In cross-builds
of other components, however, I have observed that problems
such as those you describe can result from include files
on the host platform being erroneously pulled in to the cross-build.
Cross-gcc and the makefiles have been known to be set up such
that, if the needed include file can be found neither in the explicitly
requested directories nor in the cross-compiler's default includes, 
it will silently search the host /usr/include directories.

One quick-and-dirty way to test this would be to temporarily rename
/usr/include on your host platform to /usr/include.native or whatever,
and then make your  /usr/include a symbolic link to the include 
directory of your MIPS Linux tree.  This should either let you build
correctly or give you a more useful error message telling you which
include file is missing from your cross-environment or MIPS kernel 
distribution. Just don't forget to put things back the way they were! 

            Regards,

            Kevin K.

Re: MIPS kernel!

[Kevin D. Kissell]

> I tried to cross compile the kernel from ftp.embedix.com, meaning that
> I found that this embedix Linux is made to work on any platform . I have
> an Atlas board and a QED processsor (  a mips one ) and I fail in trying
> to cross compile the linux-2.2.13. I get the following errors.
...
[errors snipped] 
...
> Another weird thing . When I received my Atlas board I gqt a CD with the
> kernel sources and binaries. I installed the binaries on the Atlas board
> and it works fine but when I tried to cross compile the kernel I get
> some stupid errors like the one above. I realy do not understand
> anything , does anyone cross compiled a kernele for MIPS processors and
> Atlas boards ? The version is linux 2.2.12.( the Hard Hat Linux ).

In general, at MIPS, we generally build native or semi-native
(mipsel on mipseb machines and vice versa).  In cross-builds
of other components, however, I have observed that problems
such as those you describe can result from include files
on the host platform being erroneously pulled in to the cross-build.
Cross-gcc and the makefiles have been known to be set up such
that, if the needed include file can be found neither in the explicitly
requested directories nor in the cross-compiler's default includes, 
it will silently search the host /usr/include directories.

One quick-and-dirty way to test this would be to temporarily rename
/usr/include on your host platform to /usr/include.native or whatever,
and then make your  /usr/include a symbolic link to the include 
directory of your MIPS Linux tree.  This should either let you build
correctly or give you a more useful error message telling you which
include file is missing from your cross-environment or MIPS kernel 
distribution. Just don't forget to put things back the way they were! 

            Regards,

            Kevin K.

Re: MIPS kernel!

[Ralf Baechle]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 10:53:14AM +0100, Kevin D. Kissell wrote:

> In general, at MIPS, we generally build native or semi-native
> (mipsel on mipseb machines and vice versa).  In cross-builds
> of other components, however, I have observed that problems
> such as those you describe can result from include files
> on the host platform being erroneously pulled in to the cross-build.
> Cross-gcc and the makefiles have been known to be set up such
> that, if the needed include file can be found neither in the explicitly
> requested directories nor in the cross-compiler's default includes, 
> it will silently search the host /usr/include directories.

This is either a bug in the version that you're using, a wrongly installed
compiled or simply wrong -I directives passed to the compiler.  The
crosscompiler rpms as distributed on oss will only search:

 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/mips-linux/egcs-2.91.66/include
 /usr/mips-linux/include

by default.  I just tried, egcs-1.1.2-2 also doesn't search silently in
other directories.  So it's not a problem of gcc itself which leaves the
makefiles.  If you find any instance of the wrong directories being
searched, please tell me.  Or better, include a patch :-)

  Ralf

MIPS kernel!

[Nicu Popovici]

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Hello ,

I tried to cross compile the kernel from ftp.embedix.com, meaning that
I found that this embedix Linux is made to work on any platform . I have
an Atlas board and a QED processsor (  a mips one ) and I fail in trying
to cross compile the linux-2.2.13. I get the following errors.

/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/scripts/mkdep amigaffs.c bitmap.c
di
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/asm/atomic.h:47: invalid
operands to binary +
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/asm/atomic.h: In function
`atomic_sub':
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/asm/atomic.h:57: invalid
operands to binary -
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/asm/atomic.h: In function
`atomic_add_return':
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/asm/atomic.h:67:
incompatible types in assignment
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/asm/atomic.h:69:
incompatible types in assignment
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/asm/atomic.h: In function
`atomic_sub_return':
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/asm/atomic.h:81:
incompatible types in assignment
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/asm/atomic.h:83:
incompatible types in assignment
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/asm/timex.h: In function
`get_cycles':
In file included from
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/linux/timex.h:138,
                 from
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/linux/sched.h:14,
                 from
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/linux/mm.h:4,
                 from
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/linux/slab.h:14,
                 from
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/linux/malloc.h:4,
                 from
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/linux/proc_fs.h:5,
                 from init/main.c:15:
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/asm/timex.h:36: warning:
implicit declaration of function `read_32bit_cp0_register'
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/asm/timex.h:36: `CP0_COUNT'

undeclared (first use this function)
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/asm/timex.h:36: (Each
undeclared identifier is reported only once
/home/nicu/Kituri/Lineo/linux-2.2.13/include/asm/timex.h:36: for each
function it appears in.)
make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1

Another weird thing . When I received my Atlas board I gqt a CD with the
kernel sources and binaries. I installed the binaries on the Atlas board
and it works fine but when I tried to cross compile the kernel I get
some stupid errors like the one above. I realy do not understand
anything , does anyone cross compiled a kernele for MIPS processors and
Atlas boards ? The version is linux 2.2.12.( the Hard Hat Linux ).

Thak you for all your help.

Regards,
Nicu

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Re: MIPS kernel!

[Kevin D. Kissell]

Ralf Baechle wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 10:53:14AM +0100, Kevin D. Kissell wrote:
> 
> > In general, at MIPS, we generally build native or semi-native
> > (mipsel on mipseb machines and vice versa).  In cross-builds
> > of other components, however, I have observed that problems
> > such as those you describe can result from include files
> > on the host platform being erroneously pulled in to the cross-build.
> > Cross-gcc and the makefiles have been known to be set up such
> > that, if the needed include file can be found neither in the explicitly
> > requested directories nor in the cross-compiler's default includes,
> > it will silently search the host /usr/include directories.
> 
> This is either a bug in the version that you're using, a wrongly installed
> compiled or simply wrong -I directives passed to the compiler.  

Obviously.  And my thought was that Nicu may well be being
bit by one or the other.

> The crosscompiler rpms as distributed on oss will only search:
> 
>  /usr/lib/gcc-lib/mips-linux/egcs-2.91.66/include
>  /usr/mips-linux/include
> 
> by default.  I just tried, egcs-1.1.2-2 also doesn't search silently in
> other directories.  So it's not a problem of gcc itself which leaves the
> makefiles.  If you find any instance of the wrong directories being
> searched, please tell me.  Or better, include a patch :-)

I saw an instance of this on the order of a year ago.  I don't
remember which compiler I was using, nor where I got it.  I have
no ability nor really much desire to try to reconstruct the
environment to reproduce the problem!

			Kevin K.

Re: MIPS kernel!

[Ralf Baechle]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 12:07:04PM -0800, Kevin D. Kissell wrote:

> > by default.  I just tried, egcs-1.1.2-2 also doesn't search silently in
> > other directories.  So it's not a problem of gcc itself which leaves the
> > makefiles.  If you find any instance of the wrong directories being
> > searched, please tell me.  Or better, include a patch :-)
> 
> I saw an instance of this on the order of a year ago.  I don't
> remember which compiler I was using, nor where I got it.  I have
> no ability nor really much desire to try to reconstruct the
> environment to reproduce the problem!

It think you can missconfigure a compiler to do something like that on a
i386-linux host by ``configure mips-linux'' or so.  That will or course
also hose your native compiler.

  Ralf

Re: MIPS kernel!

[Klaus Naumann]

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Nicu Popovici wrote:

> I try to compile the linux 2.2.13 and   I got that one from ftp.lineo.com.
> I also tried to cross compile the linux_2_2 from CVS repository from
> oss.sgi.com and I managed but that one does not have support for my
> ATLAS borad and I can not run it on my machine.

Did you also try 2.4 from oss.sgi.com ? If not you should try it,
because IIRC 2.2 doesn't have ATLAS support but 2.4 has.
I think I remember seeing a CVS commit which included ATLAS support
into 2.4 ... correct me if I'm wrong.

		HTH, Klaus

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Re: MIPS kernel!

[Carsten Langgaard]

Klaus Naumann wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Nicu Popovici wrote:
>
> > I try to compile the linux 2.2.13 and   I got that one from ftp.lineo.com.
> > I also tried to cross compile the linux_2_2 from CVS repository from
> > oss.sgi.com and I managed but that one does not have support for my
> > ATLAS borad and I can not run it on my machine.
>
> Did you also try 2.4 from oss.sgi.com ? If not you should try it,
> because IIRC 2.2 doesn't have ATLAS support but 2.4 has.
> I think I remember seeing a CVS commit which included ATLAS support
> into 2.4 ... correct me if I'm wrong.
>

The current version in the CVS repository doesn't work yet,.
I have sent Ralf a set of patches that should make it work, but I don't think
he has committed it yet.

>
>                 HTH, Klaus
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Re: MIPS kernel!

[Nicu Popovici]

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Ralf Baechle wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 05:41:16PM -0500, Nicu Popovici wrote:
>
> > I managed to pass that stage with crosscompiler.
> > I managed to make the following thing
> > make CROSS_COMPILE=mips-linux-
> >
> > and I get the follwing error.
>
> What kernel are you trying to build and where did you download it from?
>
>   Ralf

I try to compile the linux 2.2.13 and   I got that one from ftp.lineo.com.
I also tried to cross compile the linux_2_2 from CVS repository from
oss.sgi.com and I managed but that one does not have support for my
ATLAS borad and I can not run it on my machine.

Regards,
Nicu

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