Newbie question...

Newbie question...

[Bartosch Pixa]

Hi

i'm quite new to the mips architecture so sorry if i ask dumb/useless
questions. i just bought a used Octane (IP30 R10K ...) and now i'm 
curious if it's possible to get linux on it ;)
Any help/hints apreciated


Thx in advance

Bartosch Pixa

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Re: Newbie question...

[Mat Withers]

Bartosch Pixa (bartosch.pixa@infopark.de) wrote:
> Hi
> 
> i'm quite new to the mips architecture so sorry if i ask dumb/useless
> questions. i just bought a used Octane (IP30 R10K ...) and now i'm 
> curious if it's possible to get linux on it ;)
> Any help/hints apreciated
> 
> 
> Thx in advance
> 
> Bartosch Pixa
> 
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> Kitzingstr. 15, D-12277 Berlin, Germany
> Tel +49(0)-30-747.993.0, Fax +49(0)-30-747.993.93
> http://www.infopark.de/
> 
> 
> 

I'm also quite interested in mips linux - I've got an Indigo 2 R4400SC with 128 Mb RAM sitting under my desk at home doing nothing.  Is this a reasonable platform to run ? I understand that I would have to use a serial console at the moment - are there any plans to support a text console on the Indigo 2 gfx hardware (I don't really care about X). How easy is the install ? 

Any info would be gratefully received

Cheers

Mat

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Re: Newbie question...

[Keith M Wesolowski]

On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 04:07:45PM +0100, Mat Withers wrote:

> I'm also quite interested in mips linux - I've got an Indigo 2
> R4400SC with 128 Mb RAM sitting under my desk at home doing nothing.
> Is this a reasonable platform to run ? I understand that I would
> have to use a serial console at the moment - are there any plans to
> support a text console on the Indigo 2 gfx hardware (I don't really
> care about X). How easy is the install ?

As the FAQ states, this box should work fine.  Graphics hardware will
be supported when documentation is available or someone manages to
reverse-engineer it.  Perhaps you'd like to volunteer?

The install is a trivial matter for experienced hackers, an annoyance
to people who've never strayed outside the chartered bounds of
commercial Linux on peecees, and a source of unending pain and grief
for newbies.  Unfortunately it's getting easier all the time.

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Re: Newbie question...

[Keith M Wesolowski]

On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 03:59:26PM +0200, Bartosch Pixa wrote:

> i'm quite new to the mips architecture so sorry if i ask dumb/useless
> questions. i just bought a used Octane (IP30 R10K ...) and now i'm 
> curious if it's possible to get linux on it ;)

Not at this time, though a few people have started to look at it.  If
you have irix headers and an ability to mangle the kernel for the
better you should probably coordinate with Ralf and get started.  IP30
is not very different from IP27, so the port should not be excessively
difficult.

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Re: Newbie question...

[mjpento]

Hello folks,

	I am actually inquiring on a similar note. I have an Indigo 
R3000 under my desk that is collecting dust. Firstly, I would like to 
port a linux kernel to this system. I am sort of a newbie to porting 
os's. So, I have a few questions that I would like to ask:

1. Is there someone out there working on a port to the R3000's 
Indigo's? If so, does someone know who it is or a link to a 
website??? etc ...

2. Since I am rather new to porting, is there a resource that you 
folks would suggest out there on the internet that would be a good 
starting point for information or tips on the best porting methods?

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Mike

Re: Newbie question...

[Florian Lohoff]

On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 05:50:06PM -0400, mjpento wrote:
> Hello folks,
> 
> 	I am actually inquiring on a similar note. I have an Indigo 
> R3000 under my desk that is collecting dust. Firstly, I would like to 
> port a linux kernel to this system. I am sort of a newbie to porting 
> os's. So, I have a few questions that I would like to ask:
> 
> 1. Is there someone out there working on a port to the R3000's 
> Indigo's? If so, does someone know who it is or a link to a 
> website??? etc ...
> 
> 2. Since I am rather new to porting, is there a resource that you 
> folks would suggest out there on the internet that would be a good 
> starting point for information or tips on the best porting methods?

R3000 is no problem - The Indigo (1 IP12 ?) is the problem - Its mostly
undocumented and i havent heard of anyone trying to do something about it.

Flo
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Re: Newbie question...

[Jan-Benedict Glaw]

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On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 05:50:06PM -0400, mjpento wrote:
[Indigo R3000]

> 1. Is there someone out there working on a port to the R3000's 
> Indigo's? If so, does someone know who it is or a link to a 
> website??? etc ...

Rumor was that Michael Engel was working on the Indigo. I've got
such a beast as well (okay, it's an OEM version build by Siemens
Nixdorf), but there's no Linux running on this box these days.

From what I've heared, the Indigo R3k is quite different to most
other supported machines (Indy, Indigo2) so a port will be
somewhat difficult. The machine isn't the fastest one (well, 
mine is running wirh Irix 5.2 and the flight simulator is quite nice
to play with:-), but it *would* be more then fast enough to run
Linux.

> 2. Since I am rather new to porting, is there a resource that you 
> folks would suggest out there on the internet that would be a good 
> starting point for information or tips on the best porting methods?

Porting Linux to Indigo R3k is difficult. There seems to be no
hardware documentation available (except Irix header files). So
porting will be a means of reading header files, using an oscilloscope
and disassembline Irix' kernel. 

> Any help would be greatly appreciated,

I'd really *love* to see Linux running on Indigo R3k, but I'm not
experienced enough to do the port. However, I'd like to help and
cooperate with more experienced programmers to make it running, but
they're more or less fixed to their bigger^Wfaster machines...

Michael, have you had any success with your Indigo R3k?

MfG, JBG

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newbie question

[phess.linux]

Hi there!

First I have to say that I'm a newbie without any experience with "linux
kernel". So don't blame me ;-)

I downloaded toolchains from MIPS Technologies.
I downloaded the newest version Linux 2.6.14-rc1 via CVS.

I installed the toolchain and tested some examples like "hello world" and
"minicom". They worked fine. I copied the linux kernel into a new folder of
the toolchain example directory. Then I tried to make (with command sde-make
menuconfig and then sde-make SBD=GSIM32L) the linux kernel. But all I get
are the following five lines:

  CHK     include/linux/version.h
  CC      arch/mips/kernel/asm-offsets.s
gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations
sde-make[1]: *** [arch/mips/kernel/asm-offsets.s] Error 1
sde-make: *** [prepare0] Error 2

Now I need some help. Thx!

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Re: newbie question

[Nigel Stephens]

phess.linux@streber24.de wrote:

>Hi there!
>
>First I have to say that I'm a newbie without any experience with "linux
>kernel". So don't blame me ;-)
>
>I downloaded toolchains from MIPS Technologies.
>I downloaded the newest version Linux 2.6.14-rc1 via CVS.
>
>I installed the toolchain and tested some examples like "hello world" and
>"minicom". They worked fine. I copied the linux kernel into a new folder of
>the toolchain example directory. Then I tried to make (with command sde-make
>menuconfig and then sde-make SBD=GSIM32L) the linux kernel. But all I get
>are the following five lines:
>  
>

Don't try to use the bare-iron/embedded MIPS SDE toolchain to build a 
Linux kernel. Instead use the version which is configured as a Linux 
native or cross compiler. See 
http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Toolchains#MIPS_SDE

Nigel

Newbie Question

[Robert Rusek]

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I have been out of the loop for quite a while.  Is there a functional or
completed port of any of the RedHat flavors?  If so how would I go about
getting them?
 
Thanks,
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Newbie Question

[Robert Rusek]

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I have been out of the loop for quite a while.  Is there a functional or
completed port of any of the RedHat flavors?  If so how would I go about
getting them?
 
Thanks,
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Re: Newbie question...

[Bartosch Pixa]

Julien wrote:
 >
 > Hi...
 >
 > If I remember well, currently r10k are only supported on ip22 boards
 > (O2, etc)... I'm quite pessimistic for your Octane (in the immediate
 > futur). Are you looking for Linux to use it as a full featured os ?
 > linux-mips is still in intensive development (for example, only the
 > Indy
 > XL graphic card is supported, all other machines need a serial console
 > to use them), so if you planned to use it as an Irix replacement, it's
 > to soon  [;-)]
 > If you feel it, and can find enough documentation about IP30 boards,
 > it should be possible to do the port yourself   ;-))
 >
 > hope this answers your question


thx, this is not exactly what i wanted to hear ;)
but i think i'll give it a try, any hint where i should start getting 
into it, like i said i'm quite new to mips ...but i realy want to give
it a try :)

Bartosch Pixa

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strace sysmips support (was: Re: [FIX] sysmips(MIPS_ATMIC_SET, ...) ret_from_sys_call vs. o32_ret_from_sys_call)

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Florian Lohoff wrote:
> From the strace i find
> 
> sysmips(0x7d1, 0x2ac95d24, 0x1, 0)      = 4149

FWIW, I've just put code in strace CVS to decode this properly. Looking
in my (stock Linus) kerneltree I noticed the sys_sysmips code assumes
it can get away with converting an int to a char*, which seems like a
wrong assumption to me..

I don't have my indy up and running at the moment, so the code is
completely untested. Feedback is welcomed :)

Wichert.

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newbie question.

[Can Altineller]

	Hello;

	I got an Indy 4600SC with 64Megs of memory, and I dont feel like
running Irix on it. What is the status of the sgi port port of linux. Is
there a distro available? Also, I dont have a floppy in my indy, so can I
net boot? If someone point me out in the correct way, I will be very
happy.

	Thanks.
	-C.A.

Re: newbie question.

[David Jez]

On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 02:52:10PM -0500, Can Altineller wrote:
> 
> 	Hello;
> 
> 	I got an Indy 4600SC with 64Megs of memory, and I dont feel like
> running Irix on it. What is the status of the sgi port port of linux. Is
> there a distro available? Also, I dont have a floppy in my indy, so can I
> net boot? If someone point me out in the correct way, I will be very
> happy.
Hi,

Try download doc & faqs & tutorials & distro from:

ftp://ftp.oss.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips

or RedHat from:

ftp://ftp.oss.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/redhat

PS: Don't worry about instalation. In directory redhat you can find Getting
started and README. Read it carefully. If you search archive of this conf. you
can find thread about netbooting Indy ( bootp():/vmlinuz ) from PROM monitor
and setting bootpd in linux boot server.
> 
> 	Thanks.
> 	-C.A.
> 
> 
Best Regards,
Dave

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Re: newbie question.

[Mike McDonald]

>Date:   Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:06:10 +0100
>From: David Jez <dave.jez@seznam.cz>
>To: Can Altineller <altine@ee.fit.edu>
>Subject: Re: newbie question.
>
>On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 02:52:10PM -0500, Can Altineller wrote:
>> 
>> 	Hello;
>> 
>> 	I got an Indy 4600SC with 64Megs of memory, and I dont feel like
>> running Irix on it. What is the status of the sgi port port of linux. Is
>> there a distro available? Also, I dont have a floppy in my indy, so can I
>> net boot? If someone point me out in the correct way, I will be very
>> happy.
>Hi,
>
>Try download doc & faqs & tutorials & distro from:
>
>ftp://ftp.oss.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips

  Actually, it's ftp://oss.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips but I can't find any
FAQs or tutorials there. http://oss.sgi.com/mips/ has some more info.
(I've heard there's a FAQ someplace but I've never found it.)


  Mike McDonald
  mikemac@mikemac.com

Re: newbie question.

[nick]

www.foobazco.org is the faq I have used.
	Nick

On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Mike McDonald wrote:

> 
> >Date:   Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:06:10 +0100
> >From: David Jez <dave.jez@seznam.cz>
> >To: Can Altineller <altine@ee.fit.edu>
> >Subject: Re: newbie question.
> >
> >On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 02:52:10PM -0500, Can Altineller wrote:
> >> 
> >> 	Hello;
> >> 
> >> 	I got an Indy 4600SC with 64Megs of memory, and I dont feel like
> >> running Irix on it. What is the status of the sgi port port of linux. Is
> >> there a distro available? Also, I dont have a floppy in my indy, so can I
> >> net boot? If someone point me out in the correct way, I will be very
> >> happy.
> >Hi,
> >
> >Try download doc & faqs & tutorials & distro from:
> >
> >ftp://ftp.oss.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips
> 
>   Actually, it's ftp://oss.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips but I can't find any
> FAQs or tutorials there. http://oss.sgi.com/mips/ has some more info.
> (I've heard there's a FAQ someplace but I've never found it.)
> 
> 
>   Mike McDonald
>   mikemac@mikemac.com
> 

Re: newbie question.

[Ralf Baechle]

On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 12:26:11PM -0800, Mike McDonald wrote:

>   Actually, it's ftp://oss.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips but I can't find any
> FAQs or tutorials there. http://oss.sgi.com/mips/ has some more info.
> (I've heard there's a FAQ someplace but I've never found it.)

Write 100 times: http://oss.sgi.com/mips/mips-howto.html ;-)

  Ralf