Re: Replacing the Console driver

Re: Replacing the Console driver

[Alan Cox]

> I haven't checked more recent versions, but I think recent mess (uses same cpu cores
> as mame) supports early macs, so there may be an implementation example there?..

Early macintosh doesn't have an MMU as standard, The MacII had an optional
MMU (for running A/UX) and it became standard on the later Mac systems.

Alan

Re: Replacing the Console driver

[Alan Cox]

> I haven't checked more recent versions, but I think recent mess (uses same cpu cores
> as mame) supports early macs, so there may be an implementation example there?..

Early macintosh doesn't have an MMU as standard, The MacII had an optional
MMU (for running A/UX) and it became standard on the later Mac systems.

Alan

Re: Replacing the Console driver

[Ralf Baechle]

On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 01:20:19AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:

> > I haven't checked more recent versions, but I think recent mess (uses same cpu cores
> > as mame) supports early macs, so there may be an implementation example there?..
> 
> Early macintosh doesn't have an MMU as standard, The MacII had an optional
> MMU (for running A/UX) and it became standard on the later Mac systems.

MC68851?

  Ralf

Re: Replacing the Console driver

[William Jhun]

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Ralf Baechle wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 01:20:19AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > > I haven't checked more recent versions, but I think recent mess (uses same cpu cores
> > > as mame) supports early macs, so there may be an implementation example there?..
> > 
> > Early macintosh doesn't have an MMU as standard, The MacII had an optional
> > MMU (for running A/UX) and it became standard on the later Mac systems.
> 
> MC68851?

Yeah, but most home computers based on M68k didn't contain these (and they
probably weren't that cheap). The 68030 had it built in (except the
68EC030). Most of the 68k home computer OSes, like AmigaDOS (and probably
MacOS and Atari ST too) didn't come built with support for an MMU, so even
if you had one, it would only be useful for either running some UNIX
variant or advanced debugging tools (Amiga users remember good 'ol
Enforcer?).

Anyway, like I said, if anyone sees software emulation routines for a
somewhat modern MMU, I'd be interested. I'm sure it's been done (though
I'd like to see some routines that make use of the native MMU via some
kernel interface). It might be slow but it'd make for a killer
general-purpose debugging system. Or gobs of geeky fun.

Will


> 
>   Ralf
> 

Re: about mips IDE DMA disk problem

[Alan Cox]

> We port linux-2.2.12 to our mipsel evaluation board.

2.2.12 is ancient including remotely exploitable security holes. If you
update to a vaguely recent 2.2 kernel you'll also find there are ali1535
drivers although I dont think anyone has verified them on mips

Re: about mips IDE DMA disk problem

[Alan Cox]

> We port linux-2.2.12 to our mipsel evaluation board.

2.2.12 is ancient including remotely exploitable security holes. If you
update to a vaguely recent 2.2 kernel you'll also find there are ali1535
drivers although I dont think anyone has verified them on mips

Re: about mips IDE DMA disk problem

[Ilya Volynets]

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On Friday 10 August 2001 08:59, Alan Cox wrote:
> > We port linux-2.2.12 to our mipsel evaluation board.
>
> 2.2.12 is ancient including remotely exploitable security holes. If you
> update to a vaguely recent 2.2 kernel you'll also find there are ali1535
> drivers although I dont think anyone has verified them on mips
Perhaps somebody should tell MIPS, Inc. people that 2.2.12 on their
site is little bit out of date.
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Re: about mips IDE DMA disk problem

[Ilya Volynets]

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On Friday 10 August 2001 08:59, Alan Cox wrote:
> > We port linux-2.2.12 to our mipsel evaluation board.
>
> 2.2.12 is ancient including remotely exploitable security holes. If you
> update to a vaguely recent 2.2 kernel you'll also find there are ali1535
> drivers although I dont think anyone has verified them on mips
Perhaps somebody should tell MIPS, Inc. people that 2.2.12 on their
site is little bit out of date.
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Re: about mips IDE DMA disk problem

[Ralf Baechle]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 11:05:39AM -0700, Ilya Volynets wrote:

> > 2.2.12 is ancient including remotely exploitable security holes. If you
> > update to a vaguely recent 2.2 kernel you'll also find there are ali1535
> > drivers although I dont think anyone has verified them on mips
> Perhaps somebody should tell MIPS, Inc. people that 2.2.12 on their
> site is little bit out of date.

They're well aware of that - and working on 2.4

  Ralf

Re: about mips IDE DMA disk problem

[Ilya Volynets]

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On Friday 10 August 2001 11:23, Ralf Baechle wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 11:05:39AM -0700, Ilya Volynets wrote:
> > > 2.2.12 is ancient including remotely exploitable security holes. If you
> > > update to a vaguely recent 2.2 kernel you'll also find there are
> > > ali1535 drivers although I dont think anyone has verified them on mips
> >
> > Perhaps somebody should tell MIPS, Inc. people that 2.2.12 on their
> > site is little bit out of date.
>
> They're well aware of that - and working on 2.4
Great! 'cause questions related to 2.2.12 kernel are becoming FAQ.
>   Ralf
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Re: about mips IDE DMA disk problem

[Hartvig Ekner]

Hi,

Ilya Volynets writes:

> > They're well aware of that - and working on 2.4
> Great! 'cause questions related to 2.2.12 kernel are becoming FAQ.

You can already find 2.4 kernels on ftp.mips.com:

ftp> pwd
257 "/pub/linux/mips/kernel/2.4" is current directory.
ftp> ls -R
227 Entering Passive Mode (206,31,31,227,157,126)
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
total 4
-rw-r--r--   1 9618     40           1613 Jul  6 04:41 README
drwxr-xr-x   2 9618     40            512 Jul  6 05:26 images
drwxr-xr-x   2 9618     40            512 Jul  6 05:27 src

images:
total 8720
-rw-r--r--   1 9618     40        1103571 Mar 30 05:23 vmlinux-2.4.1.atlas.eb-01.00.srec.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 9618     40        1129920 Mar 30 05:23 vmlinux-2.4.1.atlas.el-01.00.srec.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 9618     40        1061736 Mar 30 05:23 vmlinux-2.4.1.malta.eb-01.00.srec.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 9618     40        1093062 Mar 30 05:23 vmlinux-2.4.1.malta.el-01.00.srec.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 9618     40        1116378 Jul  6 04:35 vmlinux-2.4.3.atlas.eb-01.00.srec.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 9618     40        1144798 Jul  6 04:35 vmlinux-2.4.3.atlas.el-01.00.srec.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 9618     40        1075193 Jul  6 04:35 vmlinux-2.4.3.malta.eb-01.00.srec.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 9618     40        1107586 Jul  6 04:35 vmlinux-2.4.3.malta.el-01.00.srec.gz
 
src:
total 50200
-rw-r--r--   1 9618     40       25100716 Mar 30 05:24 linux-2.4.1.mips-src-01.00.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 9618     40       26239788 Jul  6 04:35 linux-2.4.3.mips-src-01.00.tar.gz
226 Transfer complete.
ftp>

/Hartvig


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Re: about mips IDE DMA disk problem

[Ilya Volynets]

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MIPS web site still lists 2.2.12 kernel as official one coming from
MIPS (http://www.mips.com/devTools/catalog_2001/Linux.html)
which is probably the reason everyone else is trying to port
that one. That's all I was saying. Probably this should have been
sent to web master.
On Friday 10 August 2001 11:41, Hartvig Ekner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Ilya Volynets writes:
> > > They're well aware of that - and working on 2.4
> >
> > Great! 'cause questions related to 2.2.12 kernel are becoming FAQ.
>
> You can already find 2.4 kernels on ftp.mips.com:
>
> ftp> pwd
> 257 "/pub/linux/mips/kernel/2.4" is current directory.
> ftp> ls -R
> 227 Entering Passive Mode (206,31,31,227,157,126)
> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
> total 4
> -rw-r--r--   1 9618     40           1613 Jul  6 04:41 README
> drwxr-xr-x   2 9618     40            512 Jul  6 05:26 images
> drwxr-xr-x   2 9618     40            512 Jul  6 05:27 src
>
> images:
> total 8720
> -rw-r--r--   1 9618     40        1103571 Mar 30 05:23
> vmlinux-2.4.1.atlas.eb-01.00.srec.gz -rw-r--r--   1 9618     40       
> 1129920 Mar 30 05:23 vmlinux-2.4.1.atlas.el-01.00.srec.gz -rw-r--r--   1
> 9618     40        1061736 Mar 30 05:23
> vmlinux-2.4.1.malta.eb-01.00.srec.gz -rw-r--r--   1 9618     40       
> 1093062 Mar 30 05:23 vmlinux-2.4.1.malta.el-01.00.srec.gz -rw-r--r--   1
> 9618     40        1116378 Jul  6 04:35
> vmlinux-2.4.3.atlas.eb-01.00.srec.gz -rw-r--r--   1 9618     40       
> 1144798 Jul  6 04:35 vmlinux-2.4.3.atlas.el-01.00.srec.gz -rw-r--r--   1
> 9618     40        1075193 Jul  6 04:35
> vmlinux-2.4.3.malta.eb-01.00.srec.gz -rw-r--r--   1 9618     40       
> 1107586 Jul  6 04:35 vmlinux-2.4.3.malta.el-01.00.srec.gz
>
> src:
> total 50200
> -rw-r--r--   1 9618     40       25100716 Mar 30 05:24
> linux-2.4.1.mips-src-01.00.tar.gz -rw-r--r--   1 9618     40       26239788
> Jul  6 04:35 linux-2.4.3.mips-src-01.00.tar.gz 226 Transfer complete.
> ftp>
>
> /Hartvig
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glibc

[Steven Liu]

Hi, ALL:

I am porting Linux version 2.2.12 to Mips R3000 and need to build glibc
but I could not find the following files:

	glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz
            glibc-crypt-2.0.6.tar.gz
            glibc-localedata-2.0.6.tar.gz
 	glibc-linuxthreads-2.0.6.tar.gz
	glibc-2.0.6-mips.patch

If anyone know the place I caould get the files and let me know, I would
be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Steven Liu

glibc

[Steven Liu]

Hi, ALL:

I am porting Linux version 2.2.12 to Mips R3000 and need to build glibc
but I could not find the following files:

	glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz
            glibc-crypt-2.0.6.tar.gz
            glibc-localedata-2.0.6.tar.gz
 	glibc-linuxthreads-2.0.6.tar.gz
	glibc-2.0.6-mips.patch

If anyone know the place I caould get the files and let me know, I would
be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Steven Liu

Re: glibc

[Alan Cox]

> I am porting Linux version 2.2.12 to Mips R3000 and need to build glibc
> but I could not find the following files:

Oh no not again.

2.2.12 is historical value only. It has remote vulnerabilities and shouldnt
be used for anything.

> 	glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz

glibc 2.0 is also obsolete, heavily so

Re: glibc

[Alan Cox]

> I am porting Linux version 2.2.12 to Mips R3000 and need to build glibc
> but I could not find the following files:

Oh no not again.

2.2.12 is historical value only. It has remote vulnerabilities and shouldnt
be used for anything.

> 	glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz

glibc 2.0 is also obsolete, heavily so

Re: glibc

[Pete Popov]

Steven Liu wrote:
> Hi, ALL:
> 
> I am porting Linux version 2.2.12 to Mips R3000 and need to build glibc
> but I could not find the following files:
> 
> 	glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz
>             glibc-crypt-2.0.6.tar.gz
>             glibc-localedata-2.0.6.tar.gz
>  	glibc-linuxthreads-2.0.6.tar.gz
> 	glibc-2.0.6-mips.patch
> 
> If anyone know the place I caould get the files and let me know, I would
> be greatly appreciated.

Why are you porting 2.2.12? 2.4 is much more easy to port and there's already 
pretty good support for a number of different boards. The tools and glibc 
(2.2.3) are ready and available from a few places. And, you are much more likely 
to get help from someone with the 2.4 kernel, since that's what everyone seems 
to be using. As soon as your 2.2.12 port is done, it will be dead. Who are you 
going to submit it to? Just my 2c anyway.


Pete

RE: glibc

[Siders, Keith]

Go to http://www.mips.com/ and look for the developer tools. 

-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: Steven Liu [mailto:stevenliu@psdc.com]
-> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:46 PM
-> To: linux-mips@oss.sgi.com
-> Subject: glibc
-> 
-> 
-> Hi, ALL:
-> 
-> I am porting Linux version 2.2.12 to Mips R3000 and need to 
-> build glibc
-> but I could not find the following files:
-> 
-> 	glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz
->             glibc-crypt-2.0.6.tar.gz
->             glibc-localedata-2.0.6.tar.gz
->  	glibc-linuxthreads-2.0.6.tar.gz
-> 	glibc-2.0.6-mips.patch
-> 
-> If anyone know the place I caould get the files and let me 
-> know, I would
-> be greatly appreciated.
-> 
-> Thank you.
-> 
-> Steven Liu
-> 

RE: glibc

[Siders, Keith]

2.4.3 is available there...

-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: Ilya Volynets [mailto:ilya@theIlya.com]
-> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 4:38 PM
-> To: Siders, Keith; 'Steven Liu'; linux-mips@oss.sgi.com
-> Subject: Re: glibc
-> 
-> 
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-> Do NOT go there. Do NOT look for development tools.
-> Port 2.4.x
-> I wonder when MIPS will remove that 2.2.12 kit from their site.....
-> 
-> On Wednesday 15 August 2001 14:31, Siders, Keith wrote:
-> > Go to http://www.mips.com/ and look for the developer tools.
-> >
-> > -> -----Original Message-----
-> > -> From: Steven Liu [mailto:stevenliu@psdc.com]
-> > -> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:46 PM
-> > -> To: linux-mips@oss.sgi.com
-> > -> Subject: glibc
-> > ->
-> > ->
-> > -> Hi, ALL:
-> > ->
-> > -> I am porting Linux version 2.2.12 to Mips R3000 and need to
-> > -> build glibc
-> > -> but I could not find the following files:
-> > ->
-> > -> 	glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz
-> > ->             glibc-crypt-2.0.6.tar.gz
-> > ->             glibc-localedata-2.0.6.tar.gz
-> > ->  	glibc-linuxthreads-2.0.6.tar.gz
-> > -> 	glibc-2.0.6-mips.patch
-> > ->
-> > -> If anyone know the place I caould get the files and let me
-> > -> know, I would
-> > -> be greatly appreciated.
-> > ->
-> > -> Thank you.
-> > ->
-> > -> Steven Liu
-> > ->
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Re: glibc

[Ilya Volynets]

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Do NOT go there. Do NOT look for development tools.
Port 2.4.x
I wonder when MIPS will remove that 2.2.12 kit from their site.....

On Wednesday 15 August 2001 14:31, Siders, Keith wrote:
> Go to http://www.mips.com/ and look for the developer tools.
>
> -> -----Original Message-----
> -> From: Steven Liu [mailto:stevenliu@psdc.com]
> -> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:46 PM
> -> To: linux-mips@oss.sgi.com
> -> Subject: glibc
> ->
> ->
> -> Hi, ALL:
> ->
> -> I am porting Linux version 2.2.12 to Mips R3000 and need to
> -> build glibc
> -> but I could not find the following files:
> ->
> -> 	glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz
> ->             glibc-crypt-2.0.6.tar.gz
> ->             glibc-localedata-2.0.6.tar.gz
> ->  	glibc-linuxthreads-2.0.6.tar.gz
> -> 	glibc-2.0.6-mips.patch
> ->
> -> If anyone know the place I caould get the files and let me
> -> know, I would
> -> be greatly appreciated.
> ->
> -> Thank you.
> ->
> -> Steven Liu
> ->
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Re: glibc

[Siders, Keith]

http://www.mips.com/devTools/devArea/Linux.html states "The MIPS Linux
kernel is available based on both 2.2.12 and 2.4 releases, and is provided
as a reference for developers using Linux in a system based on a MIPS
Technologies core. It supports MIPS32 and MIPS64 CPUs..." Why are people
grabbing 2.2.12? Don't know, but 2.4 is available at
ftp://ftp.mips.com/pub/linux/mips/kernel/2.4/. Additional info is available
up a couple levels at ftp://ftp.mips.com/pub/linux/mips/. Enjoy...



-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: Ilya Volynets [mailto:ilya@theIlya.com]
-> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 4:42 PM
-> To: Siders, Keith
-> Subject: Re: glibc
-> 
-> 
-> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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-> 
-> Why are people trying to port 2.2.12 all the time, then?
-> 
-> On Wednesday 15 August 2001 14:37, you wrote:
-> > 2.4.3 is available there...
-> >
-> > -> -----Original Message-----
-> > -> From: Ilya Volynets [mailto:ilya@theIlya.com]
-> > -> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 4:38 PM
-> > -> To: Siders, Keith; 'Steven Liu'; linux-mips@oss.sgi.com
-> > -> Subject: Re: glibc
-> > ->
-> > ->
-> > -> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
-> > -> Hash: SHA1
-> > ->
-> > -> Do NOT go there. Do NOT look for development tools.
-> > -> Port 2.4.x
-> > -> I wonder when MIPS will remove that 2.2.12 kit from 
-> their site.....
-> > ->
-> > -> On Wednesday 15 August 2001 14:31, Siders, Keith wrote:
-> > -> > Go to http://www.mips.com/ and look for the developer tools.
-> > -> >
-> > -> > -> -----Original Message-----
-> > -> > -> From: Steven Liu [mailto:stevenliu@psdc.com]
-> > -> > -> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:46 PM
-> > -> > -> To: linux-mips@oss.sgi.com
-> > -> > -> Subject: glibc
-> > -> > ->
-> > -> > ->
-> > -> > -> Hi, ALL:
-> > -> > ->
-> > -> > -> I am porting Linux version 2.2.12 to Mips R3000 and need to
-> > -> > -> build glibc
-> > -> > -> but I could not find the following files:
-> > -> > ->
-> > -> > -> 	glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz
-> > -> > ->             glibc-crypt-2.0.6.tar.gz
-> > -> > ->             glibc-localedata-2.0.6.tar.gz
-> > -> > ->  	glibc-linuxthreads-2.0.6.tar.gz
-> > -> > -> 	glibc-2.0.6-mips.patch
-> > -> > ->
-> > -> > -> If anyone know the place I caould get the files and let me
-> > -> > -> know, I would
-> > -> > -> be greatly appreciated.
-> > -> > ->
-> > -> > -> Thank you.
-> > -> > ->
-> > -> > -> Steven Liu
-> > -> > ->
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Re: glibc

[Brian Murphy]

Alan Cox wrote:

> > I am porting Linux version 2.2.12 to Mips R3000 and need to build glibc
> > but I could not find the following files:
>
> Oh no not again.
>
> 2.2.12 is historical value only. It has remote vulnerabilities and shouldnt
> be used for anything.
>
> >       glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz
>
> glibc 2.0 is also obsolete, heavily so

We use 2.0.6 here because it is half the size of the newer glibcs and it seems

to work fine for us.

/Brian

Re: glibc

[Alan Cox]

> We use 2.0.6 here because it is half the size of the newer glibcs and it seems
> to work fine for us.

It trust someone patched the holes in it for things like DNS lookups ?

Re: glibc

[Alan Cox]

> We use 2.0.6 here because it is half the size of the newer glibcs and it seems
> to work fine for us.

It trust someone patched the holes in it for things like DNS lookups ?

Re: glibc

[H . J . Lu]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 10:50:25AM +0200, Brian Murphy wrote:
> 
> We use 2.0.6 here because it is half the size of the newer glibcs and it seems
> 
> to work fine for us.
> 

I am working on sglibc. It has a smaller size by disabling selective
features.


H.J.

Re: glibc

[Ralf Baechle]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 03:04:23PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:

> > We use 2.0.6 here because it is half the size of the newer glibcs and it
> > seems to work fine for us.
> 
> It trust someone patched the holes in it for things like DNS lookups ?

The latest glibc 2.0.6 I was spreading only has MIPS-specific bug fixes.
All the other big holes which are indeed big enough to drive a nice shipload
of trucks through are unfixed.  I haven't noticed that any other glibc
2.0 variant floating around has additional fixes.

Nice for Cobalt boxen ...

  Ralf

Re: glibc

[Brian Murphy]

"H . J . Lu" wrote:

>
> I am working on sglibc. It has a smaller size by disabling selective
> features.
>
> H.J.

Sounds excellent. How do I get my hands on it?

/Brian

Re: glibc

[Martin Michlmayr]

* Ralf Baechle <ralf@oss.sgi.com> [20010816 18:14]:
> The latest glibc 2.0.6 I was spreading only has MIPS-specific bug
> fixes.  All the other big holes which are indeed big enough to drive
> a nice shipload of trucks through are unfixed.  I haven't noticed
> that any other glibc 2.0 variant floating around has additional
> fixes.
> 
> Nice for Cobalt boxen ...

Debian is being ported to Cobalts.  A base tar ball can be found at
http://www.pocketlinux.com/~samc/debian-cobalt

Re: glibc

[James Simmons]

> > The latest glibc 2.0.6 I was spreading only has MIPS-specific bug
> > fixes.  All the other big holes which are indeed big enough to drive
> > a nice shipload of trucks through are unfixed.  I haven't noticed
> > that any other glibc 2.0 variant floating around has additional
> > fixes.
> > 
> > Nice for Cobalt boxen ...
> 
> Debian is being ported to Cobalts.  A base tar ball can be found at
> http://www.pocketlinux.com/~samc/debian-cobalt

All the latest stuff there. I use it for my native build system. The
kernel is a 2.4.5 BTW if people are curious. I attempt a 2.4.6 kernel but
for some reason the cube doesn't like it. I believe I have a bug in the
old time code which is affected by the soft_pending change. I will attempt
to track it down some time next week.

Re: glibc

[Soeren Laursen]

> * Ralf Baechle <ralf@oss.sgi.com> [20010816 18:14]:
> > The latest glibc 2.0.6 I was spreading only has MIPS-specific bug
> > fixes.  All the other big holes which are indeed big enough to drive
> > a nice shipload of trucks through are unfixed.  I haven't noticed
> > that any other glibc 2.0 variant floating around has additional
> > fixes.
> > 
> > Nice for Cobalt boxen ...
> 
> Debian is being ported to Cobalts.  A base tar ball can be found at
> http://www.pocketlinux.com/~samc/debian-cobalt

Has anybody any luck running it on raq2 from Cobalt/SUN?

Soeren,

Re: glibc

[H . J . Lu]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 07:00:42PM +0200, Brian Murphy wrote:
> "H . J . Lu" wrote:
> 
> >
> > I am working on sglibc. It has a smaller size by disabling selective
> > features.
> >
> > H.J.
> 
> Sounds excellent. How do I get my hands on it?
> 

http://sourceforge.net/projects/sglibc/

It is for developers only.


H.J.

Re: Galileo 64240

[ellis]

>>Is there any support code around for the Galileo 64240? A
>>serial driver would be really nice ;)

>I started an MPSC/Uart driver for the 64240/64240A chips. Didn't
>get much of it working when we got fed up with all of the
>Galileo errata about which registers could or could not be read
>at which times and their confusion as to whether or not they
>were planning to ever fix the errata.

>We broke down and added a 162550 UART to the board.

I really wish that option was available. ;)

>The driver code was abandoned in the midst of early debugging
>stages and is in a horrific state. You're welcome to a copy if
>you really can't find something better.

It looks like we have something that works for our in-house
(non-linux) OS. I guess I'll use that code as an example and see
if I can get a real driver working.

--
http://www.spinics.net/linux/

Re: Mips16 toolchain?

[Hartvig Ekner]

Dominic Sweetman writes:
> 
> We are also developing a compiler from the same source tree, but
> configured for Linux.  That was the compiler we'll be looking for
> beta-testers for in the next couple of months.
> 
> If you want to be able to build MIPS16 applications and then run them
> on Linux, this is more challenging.  You have to build everything
> static: then it works mostly, and some people at MIPS have built and
> run some programs.

I have built glibc in a static and non-PIC version to allow linking against
M16 user apps (non-PIC required because current Linux compilers cannot 
generate M16 PIC code). It worked fine using the Algo 5.0 Beta for Linux. 
I successfully built a few applications (ones which only required libc).

It won't be really useful until somebody builds a complete library set
which is static and non-PIC, or PIC support gets included in the M16
code generator.

/Hartvig

Re: cross-compiler for MIPS_RedHat7.1_Release-01.00 on Atlas/4Kc using RH7.3-i386 host

[Hartvig Ekner]

Hi David,

David Christensen writes:
> 
> linux-mips@oss.sgi.com:
> 
> I have downloaded ftp://ftp.mips.com/pub/linux/mips/installation/redhat7
> .1/01.00/MIPS_RedHat7.1_Release-01.00.iso, burned a CD, and followed the
> instructions provided on the CD (/linux/installation/README) to install
> Linux (little-endian) on a MIPS Atlas/4Kc board with a SCSI disk.

Note that you can install the Release-02.00 (with all the latest RPMs
from H.J.) as well on an Atlas, you'll just have to use the 2.4.3 install
kernel from the 01.00 CD image you downloaded, and everything else from 
the new release.


> would now like to recompile the kernel to experiment with sound.  I have
> posted to this mailing list before and was informed that I need a cross-
> compiler, available on oss.sgi.com.  My host is Red Hat Linux-i386 7.3.

For kernel cross compilation we use the following binary RPM's (LE shown only):

        binutils-mipsel-linux-2.9.5-3
        egcs-mipsel-linux-1.1.2-4

They can be found on:

        ftp://oss.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/crossdev/i386-linux/mipsel-linux/


/Hartvig

Re: cross-compiler for MIPS_RedHat7.1_Release-01.00 on Atlas/4Kc using RH7.3-i386 host

[Hartvig Ekner]

Hi David,

David Christensen writes:
> 
> linux-mips@oss.sgi.com:
> 
> I have downloaded ftp://ftp.mips.com/pub/linux/mips/installation/redhat7
> .1/01.00/MIPS_RedHat7.1_Release-01.00.iso, burned a CD, and followed the
> instructions provided on the CD (/linux/installation/README) to install
> Linux (little-endian) on a MIPS Atlas/4Kc board with a SCSI disk.

Note that you can install the Release-02.00 (with all the latest RPMs
from H.J.) as well on an Atlas, you'll just have to use the 2.4.3 install
kernel from the 01.00 CD image you downloaded, and everything else from 
the new release.


> would now like to recompile the kernel to experiment with sound.  I have
> posted to this mailing list before and was informed that I need a cross-
> compiler, available on oss.sgi.com.  My host is Red Hat Linux-i386 7.3.

For kernel cross compilation we use the following binary RPM's (LE shown only):

        binutils-mipsel-linux-2.9.5-3
        egcs-mipsel-linux-1.1.2-4

They can be found on:

        ftp://oss.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/crossdev/i386-linux/mipsel-linux/


/Hartvig

Re: cross-compiler for MIPS_RedHat7.1_Release-01.00 on Atlas/4Kc using RH7.3-i386 host

[David Christensen]

linux-mips@oss.sgi.com & Hartvig:

Hartvig Ekner wrote:
> Note that you can install the Release-02.00 (with all the latest RPMs
> from H.J.) as well on an Atlas, you'll just have to use the 2.4.3
> install kernel from the 01.00 CD image you downloaded, and everything
> else from the new release.

I'll keep that in mind for my next install.


> For kernel cross compilation we use the following binary RPM's (LE
> shown only):
>
>        binutils-mipsel-linux-2.9.5-3
>        egcs-mipsel-linux-1.1.2-4

I'll try what I've already installed and see what happens.  If it fails,
I'll upgrade binutils and try again.


Thank you for your help.  :-)


David

Re: cross-compiler for MIPS_RedHat7.1_Release-01.00 on Atlas/4Kc using RH7.3-i386 host

[David Christensen]

linux-mips@oss.sgi.com & Hartvig:

Hartvig Ekner wrote:
> Note that you can install the Release-02.00 (with all the latest RPMs
> from H.J.) as well on an Atlas, you'll just have to use the 2.4.3
> install kernel from the 01.00 CD image you downloaded, and everything
> else from the new release.

I'll keep that in mind for my next install.


> For kernel cross compilation we use the following binary RPM's (LE
> shown only):
>
>        binutils-mipsel-linux-2.9.5-3
>        egcs-mipsel-linux-1.1.2-4

I'll try what I've already installed and see what happens.  If it fails,
I'll upgrade binutils and try again.


Thank you for your help.  :-)


David

Re: cross-compiler for MIPS_RedHat7.1_Release-01.00 on Atlas/4Kc using RH7.3-i386 host

[Muthukumar Ratty]

On Thu, 30 May 2002, David Christensen wrote:

> linux-mips@oss.sgi.com & Hartvig:
>
> Hartvig Ekner wrote:
> > from H.J.) as well on an Atlas, you'll just have to use the 2.4.3
> > install kernel from the 01.00 CD image you downloaded, and everything
> > else from the new release.

Is there any latest kernel (2.5.xx) available for MIPS/Atlas?

>
> >
> >        binutils-mipsel-linux-2.9.5-3
> >        egcs-mipsel-linux-1.1.2-4
>

I played around with some cross-compilers and what I understood is

1. Algorithmics sde4 is not matured enough to compile 2.4.xx kernels (As
Dominic Sweetman mentioned in his reply to my help mail). He said sde5
will do but I dint get a chance to try this. Any update from anyone used it?

2. I followed BradLaRondes write up - Building a Modern Mips Tool chain (I
dont have the link irght now, but you can google it). It compiles the
kernel and Applications. But it requires kernel header lying around from previous
builds. So if you are just starting, then you may wanna grab the header
from somewhere. But the problem with this toolchain is: I was not able to
build Yamon SREC using this.

3. I also tried Steve Hills toolchain located at
ftp://ftp.cotw.com/Linux/MIPS/toolchain/experimental
It is complete and I can build kernel and applications with it. Again I
couldnt build Yamon SREC with it.

BTW you may need to do slight changes, like changing target from
little-mips to tradlittle-mips etc. Its simple but if you get stuck, post
it here and someone will help you.

All the best,
Muthu

> I'll try what I've already installed and see what happens.  If it fails,
> I'll upgrade binutils and try again.
>
>
> Thank you for your help.  :-)
>
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>

Re: cross-compiler for MIPS_RedHat7.1_Release-01.00 on Atlas/4Kc using RH7.3-i386 host

[Muthukumar Ratty]

On Thu, 30 May 2002, David Christensen wrote:

> linux-mips@oss.sgi.com & Hartvig:
>
> Hartvig Ekner wrote:
> > from H.J.) as well on an Atlas, you'll just have to use the 2.4.3
> > install kernel from the 01.00 CD image you downloaded, and everything
> > else from the new release.

Is there any latest kernel (2.5.xx) available for MIPS/Atlas?

>
> >
> >        binutils-mipsel-linux-2.9.5-3
> >        egcs-mipsel-linux-1.1.2-4
>

I played around with some cross-compilers and what I understood is

1. Algorithmics sde4 is not matured enough to compile 2.4.xx kernels (As
Dominic Sweetman mentioned in his reply to my help mail). He said sde5
will do but I dint get a chance to try this. Any update from anyone used it?

2. I followed BradLaRondes write up - Building a Modern Mips Tool chain (I
dont have the link irght now, but you can google it). It compiles the
kernel and Applications. But it requires kernel header lying around from previous
builds. So if you are just starting, then you may wanna grab the header
from somewhere. But the problem with this toolchain is: I was not able to
build Yamon SREC using this.

3. I also tried Steve Hills toolchain located at
ftp://ftp.cotw.com/Linux/MIPS/toolchain/experimental
It is complete and I can build kernel and applications with it. Again I
couldnt build Yamon SREC with it.

BTW you may need to do slight changes, like changing target from
little-mips to tradlittle-mips etc. Its simple but if you get stuck, post
it here and someone will help you.

All the best,
Muthu

> I'll try what I've already installed and see what happens.  If it fails,
> I'll upgrade binutils and try again.
>
>
> Thank you for your help.  :-)
>
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>

Re: cross-compiler for MIPS_RedHat7.1_Release-01.00 on Atlas/4Kc

[Hartvig Ekner]

Hi,

Muthukumar Ratty writes:
> 
> On Thu, 30 May 2002, David Christensen wrote:
> 
> > linux-mips@oss.sgi.com & Hartvig:
> >
> > Hartvig Ekner wrote:
> > > from H.J.) as well on an Atlas, you'll just have to use the 2.4.3
> > > install kernel from the 01.00 CD image you downloaded, and everything
> > > else from the new release.
> 
> Is there any latest kernel (2.5.xx) available for MIPS/Atlas?

No. Not from us anyway. Internally, we use the Linux systems heavily for
processor testing, so we tend to stay away from the bleeding edge (==
too  many problems and SW bugs). That is also why we haven't switched
to 2.4.18 until now.

That being said, there are probably many others who compile & use 2.5
kernels for MIPS.

> I played around with some cross-compilers and what I understood is
> 
> 1. Algorithmics sde4 is not matured enough to compile 2.4.xx kernels (As
> Dominic Sweetman mentioned in his reply to my help mail). He said sde5
> will do but I dint get a chance to try this. Any update from anyone used it?

We're using a beta of it - and there are known issues being worked on,
both compiling userland natively and kernel cross compiles.
You'll have to ask Dom when he expects final 5.0 to go out the door.

/Hartvig

Re: cross-compiler for MIPS_RedHat7.1_Release-01.00 on Atlas/4Kc

[Hartvig Ekner]

Hi,

Muthukumar Ratty writes:
> 
> On Thu, 30 May 2002, David Christensen wrote:
> 
> > linux-mips@oss.sgi.com & Hartvig:
> >
> > Hartvig Ekner wrote:
> > > from H.J.) as well on an Atlas, you'll just have to use the 2.4.3
> > > install kernel from the 01.00 CD image you downloaded, and everything
> > > else from the new release.
> 
> Is there any latest kernel (2.5.xx) available for MIPS/Atlas?

No. Not from us anyway. Internally, we use the Linux systems heavily for
processor testing, so we tend to stay away from the bleeding edge (==
too  many problems and SW bugs). That is also why we haven't switched
to 2.4.18 until now.

That being said, there are probably many others who compile & use 2.5
kernels for MIPS.

> I played around with some cross-compilers and what I understood is
> 
> 1. Algorithmics sde4 is not matured enough to compile 2.4.xx kernels (As
> Dominic Sweetman mentioned in his reply to my help mail). He said sde5
> will do but I dint get a chance to try this. Any update from anyone used it?

We're using a beta of it - and there are known issues being worked on,
both compiling userland natively and kernel cross compiles.
You'll have to ask Dom when he expects final 5.0 to go out the door.

/Hartvig

Re: cross-compiler for MIPS_RedHat7.1_Release-01.00 on Atlas/4Kc using RH7.3-i386 host

[David Christensen]

linux-mips@oss.sgi.com & Muthukumar:

Muthukumar Ratty wrote:
> BTW you may need to do slight changes, like changing target from
> little-mips to tradlittle-mips etc. Its simple but if you get stuck,
> post it here and someone will help you.

So far, no problems.  :-)


Thank you for your reply.


David Christensen
dpchrist@holgerdanske.com

Re: cross-compiler for MIPS_RedHat7.1_Release-01.00 on Atlas/4Kc using RH7.3-i386 host

[David Christensen]

linux-mips@oss.sgi.com & Muthukumar:

Muthukumar Ratty wrote:
> BTW you may need to do slight changes, like changing target from
> little-mips to tradlittle-mips etc. Its simple but if you get stuck,
> post it here and someone will help you.

So far, no problems.  :-)


Thank you for your reply.


David Christensen
dpchrist@holgerdanske.com