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From: "Jay Carlson" <nop@nop.com>
To: "Dominic Sweetman" <dom@algor.co.uk>,
	"Bradley D. LaRonde" <brad@ltc.com>
Cc: "Andrew R. Baker" <andrewb@uab.edu>,
	"Linux SGI" <linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com>, <linux-mips@fnet.fr>,
	<linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:08:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <578601bf882d$d945f650$0a00000a@decoy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200003071022.KAA00275@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk

> Bradley D. LaRonde (brad@ltc.com) writes (re the FPA emulator out of
> Algorithmics via Kevin Kissell):
>
> > I would jump right on this but I really need it for 2.3.47+.
>
> It's good to see our donation to the Linux project being taken up
> enthusiastically , but didn't SGI have some code like this?  I mean,
> you can't have a serious MIPS run-time system without an FP emulator,
> can you?

quoting from softftp.S from 2.3.19:

 * For now it's just a crude hack good enough to run certain fp programs
like
 * Mozilla.

It's just dealing with denorms, NaNs, etc as inputs.  AFAIK NetBSD was no
better until pretty recently.

Whether Linux or NetBSD, as systems, were ever serious MIPS run-time
systems---well, you wrote the book, so I'm inclined to get out of the
argument.

>From my LinuxCE perspective, a full FP emu is fairly important for getting
binary compatibility back with mainline Linux/MIPS---we've been in the
softfp ghetto.  But most of what we do with FP is, uh, keep /bin/df happy
when it tries to calculate the percentage of free disk space, and the like.
And dropping softfp means we don't *have* to maintain a forked
toolchain/libc.

(of course, getting rid of softfp makes mips16 more...interesting...)

Jay

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From: "Jay Carlson" <nop@nop.com>
To: Dominic Sweetman <dom@algor.co.uk>, "Bradley D. LaRonde" <brad@ltc.com>
Cc: "Andrew R. Baker" <andrewb@uab.edu>,
	Linux SGI <linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com>,
	linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu
Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:08:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <578601bf882d$d945f650$0a00000a@decoy> (raw)
Message-ID: <20000307120823.Q5F9l8fyUYl0aky-UZm3K5vUqpWr8HGi82eLJWqO_vM@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200003071022.KAA00275@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk

> Bradley D. LaRonde (brad@ltc.com) writes (re the FPA emulator out of
> Algorithmics via Kevin Kissell):
>
> > I would jump right on this but I really need it for 2.3.47+.
>
> It's good to see our donation to the Linux project being taken up
> enthusiastically , but didn't SGI have some code like this?  I mean,
> you can't have a serious MIPS run-time system without an FP emulator,
> can you?

quoting from softftp.S from 2.3.19:

 * For now it's just a crude hack good enough to run certain fp programs
like
 * Mozilla.

It's just dealing with denorms, NaNs, etc as inputs.  AFAIK NetBSD was no
better until pretty recently.

Whether Linux or NetBSD, as systems, were ever serious MIPS run-time
systems---well, you wrote the book, so I'm inclined to get out of the
argument.

From my LinuxCE perspective, a full FP emu is fairly important for getting
binary compatibility back with mainline Linux/MIPS---we've been in the
softfp ghetto.  But most of what we do with FP is, uh, keep /bin/df happy
when it tries to calculate the percentage of free disk space, and the like.
And dropping softfp means we don't *have* to maintain a forked
toolchain/libc.

(of course, getting rid of softfp makes mips16 more...interesting...)

Jay

  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-03-07 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-03-07  4:12 FP emulation patch available Andrew R. Baker
     [not found] ` <097a01bf87eb$ebe4d4d0$b8119526@ltc.com>
     [not found]   ` <200003071022.KAA00275@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk>
2000-03-07 12:08     ` Jay Carlson [this message]
2000-03-07 12:08       ` Jay Carlson
2000-03-08 16:25       ` Ralf Baechle
2000-03-08 16:18     ` Ralf Baechle
     [not found]   ` <38C4C328.9656C68E@niisi.msk.ru>
2000-03-07 18:54     ` Andrew R. Baker
2000-03-07 19:43       ` Harald Koerfgen
2000-03-08 16:11     ` Ralf Baechle
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-03-08  9:43 Kevin D. Kissell
2000-03-08  9:43 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2000-03-08 17:02 ` Richard van den Berg
2000-03-08 18:43 ` Harald Koerfgen
2000-03-08 20:12 Kevin D. Kissell
2000-03-08 20:12 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2000-03-09  2:03 ` Warner Losh
     [not found] ` <200003082223.WAA00605@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk>
2000-03-09  2:13   ` Warner Losh
2000-03-09 20:20 ` Harald Koerfgen
2000-03-12 13:03 Kevin D. Kissell
2000-03-12 13:03 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2000-03-12 21:23 ` Harald Koerfgen
2000-03-12 21:52 Kevin D. Kissell
2000-03-12 21:52 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2000-03-13 22:22 ` Harald Koerfgen
2000-03-13  8:33 Kevin D. Kissell
2000-03-13  8:33 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2000-03-13 13:46 ` Alan Cox
2000-03-13 13:46   ` Alan Cox
2000-03-13 19:05   ` Harald Koerfgen
2000-03-13 19:05     ` Harald Koerfgen
2000-03-13 17:46 ` Ralf Baechle
2000-03-13 20:13   ` William J. Earl
2000-03-14 18:50   ` Andrew R. Baker
     [not found]     ` <200003142317.XAA00644@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk>
2000-03-15 14:35       ` Kevin D. Kissell
2000-03-13 23:20 Kevin D. Kissell
2000-03-13 23:20 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2000-03-14 18:15 ` Harald Koerfgen
2000-03-21 22:27 Kevin D. Kissell
2000-03-21 22:27 ` Kevin D. Kissell

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