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From: Richard Sandiford <rdsandiford@googlemail.com>
To: Kumba <kumba@gentoo.org>
Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, Linux MIPS List <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH]: R10000 Needs LL/SC Workaround in Gcc
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:47:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87myggilk2.fsf@firetop.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <490EBDE2.6010709@gentoo.org> (kumba@gentoo.org's message of "Mon\, 03 Nov 2008 04\:01\:22 -0500")

Kumba <kumba@gentoo.org> writes:
>>    2) Implement both (a) and (b).  In this case, any gcc code guarded
>>       by TARGET_FIX_R10000 would need to check whether branch-likely
>>       instructions are available.  If they are, we can use either
>>       workaround (a) or workaroudn (b).  If they aren't, we must
>>       use workaround (b).
>
> I think it's better to target this path.  While it's probably an
> extremely rare case, because this problem only affects a specific set
> of processor revisions, triggering a problem only noticed (so far) on
> SGI machines running Linux, I tend to err on the side of caution and
> think it's probably a good idea to do it right the first time.

Agreed, but that's just as true of option 1.  Each option is as correct
as the other.  It's just a question of whether we need the combination:

  -mips1 -mllsc -mfix-r10000

to be accepted, or whether we can treat it as a compile-time error.

If you do go for option 2, you then have to decide whether to insert
28 nops after every LL/SC loop, or whether you try to do some analysis
to avoid unnecessary nops.  The natural place for this analysis would
be mips_avoid_hazard.

>> You need to modify the asm templates whatever you do.
>
> This is what has me a little perplexed.  The asm templates are #define
> macros, and it's kind of dawned on me that my attempts made so far to
> correct the errata has me using preprocessor macros that are going to
> get translated into something else when gcc itself is compiled, rather
> than gcc changing what it outputs based on the flags we send it.
>
> So I'm assuming that, poking around in the sync.md file some, the better 
> approach might be to pass an extra argument to these atomic macros as they're 
> evaluated in sync.md.  This extra argument being the resultant branch likely 
> instruction:
>
> 	- If -mfix-r10000 isn't needed or -mbranch-likely isn't called,
> 	  "beq" gets passed in.
> 	- If -mfix-r10000 is called, and ISA_HAS_BRANCHLIKELY is false,
> 	  pass in 28 nops plus "beq" (is there some kind of macro that can
> 	  expand a single nop 28 times?).
> 	- If -mfix-r10000 is called and ISA_HAS_BRANCHLIKELY is true
> 	  and -mno-branch-likely was not called, then pass in the beqzl
> 	  instruction.
>
> I think that's all the relevant combinations.  It's also probably a
> good idea too to determine the value to pass as the extra argument
> before the atomic macro is called.

If you go for option 1, you could replace things like:

  "\tbeq\t%@,%.,1b\n"				\
  "\tnop\n"					\

with:

  "\tbeq%?\t%@,%.,1b\n"				\
  "\tnop\n"					\

and make the .md insn do:

  mips_branch_likely = TARGET_FIX_R10000;

But something nattier is needed for MIPS_SYNC_NEW_OP and MIPS_SYNC_NEW_NAND,
where the branch delay slot is not a nop.  In this case, we need to replace
things like:

  "\tbeq\t%@,%.,1b\n"				\
  "\t" INSN "\t%0,%0,%2\n"			\

with:

  "\tbeql\t%@,%.,1b\n"				\
  "\tnop\n"					\
  "\t" INSN "\t%0,%0,%2\n"			\

(INSN does not need to be executed when the branch is taken.)

I suppose adding a macro parameter would work, but it would lead
to combinatorial explosion.  I think we need to replace these
MIPS_SYNC_* macros with a function that uses output_asm_insn
to emit the loop insn-by-insn.  (This might make it possible
to factor things more than they're factored now.)

>> Yes, provided that you never override an explicit -mfix-r10000 or
>> -mno-fix-r10000.
>
> I copied the same code for R4000 and R4400 for this:
>
>    /* Default to working around R10000 errata only if the processor
>       was selected explicitly.  */
>    if ((target_flags_explicit & MASK_FIX_R10000) == 0
>        && mips_matching_cpu_name_p (mips_arch_info->name, "r10000"))
>      target_flags |= MASK_FIX_R10000;

Looks good.

> I assume that won't fire on r12000/r14000/r16000, right?

Right.

>> Actually, I meant: I was wondering about the fact that there seems
>> to be no online copy of the errata sheet that describes this problem.
>> I've only ever seen a description of the workaround.  I've never seen
>> a verbatim copy of the errata itself.
>
> I tried seeing whether archive.org had anything old off of the
> mips.com site, but nothing close to the old directory structure seems
> to exist.  If I new what the PDF file name was, it might be possible
> to track something down on Google pertaining to the last publicly
> released revision.  Bit surprised, too, on why NEC doesn't have
> anything on necel.com.  They produced the actual silicon and had a
> hand in designing it, if I'm not mistaken.  I'd think they would at
> least have a copy if no one else.

Yeah.  Maybe they just want to erase bad memories ;)

Richard

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-03 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-31  5:00 [PATCH]: R10000 Needs LL/SC Workaround in Gcc Kumba
2008-10-31 14:24 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-11-01  7:30 ` Kumba
2008-11-01 17:41   ` Richard Sandiford
2008-11-01 18:49     ` Kumba
2008-11-01 19:42       ` Richard Sandiford
2008-11-02  0:00         ` Kumba
2008-11-02 10:00           ` Richard Sandiford
2008-11-03  9:01             ` Kumba
2008-11-03 20:47               ` Richard Sandiford [this message]
2008-11-04  0:04                 ` Ralf Baechle
2008-11-04  7:14                 ` Kumba
2008-11-04  9:04                   ` Ralf Baechle
2008-11-04 14:26                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-11-04 14:31                       ` Ralf Baechle
2008-11-04 14:23                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-11-08  9:37                   ` Richard Sandiford
2008-11-08 18:20                     ` Markus Gothe
2008-11-10  6:09                     ` Kumba
2008-11-11 23:13                       ` Richard Sandiford
2008-11-11 23:28                         ` Richard Sandiford
2008-11-11 23:40                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-11-12  7:42                         ` Kumba
2008-11-13 23:10                           ` Richard Sandiford
2008-11-14  8:14                             ` Kumba
2008-11-15 14:28                               ` Richard Sandiford
2008-11-16  7:35                                 ` Kumba
2008-11-02 10:49           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-11-02 11:34             ` Richard Sandiford
2008-11-03 16:51             ` Paul_Koning
2008-11-03 16:51               ` Paul_Koning
2008-11-03 16:59               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-11-03 17:35               ` Ralf Baechle
2008-11-01 20:33     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-11-01 23:45       ` Ralf Baechle

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