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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	Wu Zhangjin <wuzhangjin@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	linux-mips@linux-mips.org, Kumar Gala <galak@gate.crashing.org>,
	Becky Bruce <beckyb@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] PCM mmap (temporary) fixes for non-coherent architectures
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:32:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hska7lt6g.wl%tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1263538249.724.405.camel@pasglop>

At Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:50:49 +1100,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 07:43 +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > 
> > > It -might- be worth looking at adding code to the USB stack to
> > propagate
> > > the parent device dma_ops down to USB devices... hard to tell.
> > 
> > Or we may simply need to drop the mmap support on such
> > architectures...
> 
> Nah, that would suck since that includes x86 nowadays :-)

Ah, no, I meant about non-coherent architectures that can't use
vmalloc pages as the intermediate buffer.  Dropping mmap for x86 would
be a big regression ;)

> I think you probably need to separate the struct device * used for DMA
> (it could be default be the same as the "main" struct device tho or it
> could default to NULL which means no mmap support).
> 
> USB could (if not already) provide an accessor to obtain the HC's struct
> device for such mappings. We'll have to discuss that with Alan Stern I
> suppose.
> 
> The USB Audio or similar drivers could then use that accessors to fill
> up Alsa's dma_device field to replace the "default".

The situation of usb-audio is, unfortunately, a bit more complex
because the driver needs a continuous ring-buffer.  The packet data
are copied from that intermediate buffer on demand.

This isn't efficient, but the continuous ring-buffer is demanded by
the current API design exported as mmap.


thanks,

Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-15  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-26 15:13 [PATCH 0/5] PCM mmap (temporary) fixes for non-coherent architectures Takashi Iwai
2009-11-26 15:13 ` [PATCH 1/5] ALSA: pcm - Use dma_mmap_coherent() if available Takashi Iwai
2009-11-26 15:13   ` [PATCH 2/5] ALSA: pcm - define snd_pcm_default_page_ops() Takashi Iwai
2009-11-26 15:13     ` [PATCH 3/5] ALSA: pcm - fix page conversion on non-coherent MIPS arch Takashi Iwai
2009-11-26 15:13       ` [PATCH 4/5] ALSA: pcm - fix page conversion on non-coherent PPC arch Takashi Iwai
2009-11-26 15:13         ` [PATCH 5/5] ALSA: Remove old DMA-mmap code from arm/devdma.c Takashi Iwai
2009-11-26 16:56         ` [PATCH 4/5] ALSA: pcm - fix page conversion on non-coherent PPC arch Takashi Iwai
2009-11-26 21:14           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 20:51         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-27  9:18           ` Takashi Iwai
2009-11-27  3:52       ` [PATCH 3/5] ALSA: pcm - fix page conversion on non-coherent MIPS arch Wu Zhangjin
2009-11-27  9:26         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-11-27  8:46       ` Ralf Baechle
2009-11-27  9:20         ` Takashi Iwai
2010-01-01 19:31 ` [PATCH 0/5] PCM mmap (temporary) fixes for non-coherent architectures Andreas Mohr
2010-01-12  7:02   ` Takashi Iwai
2010-01-13  9:07     ` Takashi Iwai
2010-01-14  7:46       ` Andreas Mohr
2010-01-14  7:54         ` Takashi Iwai
2010-01-15  3:28       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-15  6:43         ` Takashi Iwai
2010-01-15  6:50           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-15  7:32             ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2010-01-13  9:28     ` Andreas Mohr

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