From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: "Liu, Yuan1" <yuan1.liu@intel.com>,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"Zou, Nanhai" <nanhai.zou@intel.com>,
"Deng, Pan" <pan.deng@intel.com>,
"Li, Tianyou" <tianyou.li@intel.com>,
Chen Zhang <zhangchen.kidd@jd.com>,
"Zeng, Jason" <jason.zeng@intel.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/2] mm/memory_hotplug: optimize zone contiguous check when changing pfn range
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2026 14:23:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01795519-54e8-4ed8-a94e-2b77780abc3a@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f0593f56-870e-4e79-8552-1760fad255bc@kernel.org>
On 8/10/26 16:04, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>
>> Hi David
>>
>> My understanding is that init_unavailable_range() initializes all
>> PFNs that satisfy pfn_valid(), but not all of them satisfy
>> pfn_to_online_page(), since some PFNs belong to subsections that are
>> not online.
>
> Thanks for reminding me. I think the right direction is to finally clean up the
> pfn_valid() handling.
>
>>
>> You previously mentioned:
>>
>> pfn_valid() says early sections always have a full memmap, so even invalid
>> subsections have a memmap. pfn_to_online_page() says an invalid subsection
>> cannot be online and its content must be stale. for_each_valid_pfn() follows
>> pfn_valid() semantics, and we use it to initialize memmap that is not going
>> to be online and account it as pages_with_online_memmap, which is wrong.
>>
>> The cleanest approach is to avoid allocating memmap for subsections, which
>> also removes the special early-section handling from pfn_valid() and
>> for_each_valid_pfn().
>>
>> I also share the concerns raised by Sashiko in the analysis below [1]:
>>
>> Scanners like isolate_migratepages_block() will then blindly iterate through
>> the pageblock and access the completely uninitialized struct pages of the hole,
>> leading to functional errors or kernel panics when reading these zero-filled
>> structures via macros like PageHuge() or page_zone().
>>
>> That's why we went with the current approach in v6 instead of your
>> earlier suggestion. I'd really appreciate your guidance on which
>> direction you think would be more appropriate.
> Let me take a stab at just having pfn_valid() / for_each_valid_pfn() respecting
> the subsection map.
... and that turns complicated very quickly. The problem is that we have some users,
in particular the buddy, that just assumes that MAX_PAGE_ORDER regions are fully
accessible.
The fun begins once we have MAX_PAGE_ORDER span multiple subsections. So we'd actually
want to initialize the memmap.
The pfn_valid() vs. pfn_to_online_page() inconsistency is really nasty :(
I mean, in init_unavailable_range() we could actually figure out fairly easily
whether we are dealing with holes where pfn_to_online_page() would succeed.
diff --git a/mm/mm_init.c b/mm/mm_init.c
index e9c4204b73adb..54e71e17f2c3c 100644
--- a/mm/mm_init.c
+++ b/mm/mm_init.c
@@ -843,11 +843,13 @@ static void __init init_unavailable_range(unsigned long spfn,
int zone, int node)
{
unsigned long pfn;
- u64 pgcnt = 0;
+ u64 pgcnt = 0, online_pgcnt = 0;
for_each_valid_pfn(pfn, spfn, epfn) {
__init_single_page(pfn_to_page(pfn), pfn, zone, node);
__SetPageReserved(pfn_to_page(pfn));
+ if (pfn_to_online_page(pfn))
+ online_pgcnt++;
pgcnt++;
}
If it's a problem performance-wise, we can always try optimizing by skipping
checks within the same (sub)section.
--
Cheers,
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-11 12:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-23 8:49 [PATCH v6 0/2] mm/memory_hotplug: optimize zone contiguous check when changing pfn range Yuan Liu
2026-07-23 8:49 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] " Yuan Liu
2026-08-05 11:53 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-06 7:23 ` Liu, Yuan1
2026-08-06 8:45 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-06 9:52 ` Liu, Yuan1
2026-08-07 11:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-07 12:15 ` Liu, Yuan1
2026-08-09 3:12 ` Wei Yang
2026-08-10 14:04 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-11 12:23 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-07-23 8:49 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] mm/memory_hotplug: improve shrink_zone_span() subsection boundary checks Yuan Liu
2026-07-25 2:49 ` Wei Yang
2026-07-27 9:49 ` Liu, Yuan1
2026-07-30 2:36 ` Wei Yang
2026-07-30 7:57 ` Liu, Yuan1
2026-08-01 0:59 ` Wei Yang
2026-08-05 11:02 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-06 7:14 ` Liu, Yuan1
2026-08-07 3:22 ` Wei Yang
2026-08-07 11:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-05 9:40 ` [PATCH v6 0/2] mm/memory_hotplug: optimize zone contiguous check when changing pfn range Liu, Yuan1
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