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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>,
	Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
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	Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
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	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Ryan Roberts <Ryan.Roberts@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] mm: remove page_mapped()
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2026 07:37:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <06d11ed8-8532-4748-8ce2-6715c4665dc5@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQ+t549-aWEXq=ZUN79H-M=std3-Q8w3fU+dyNhF7mNjyA@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/27/26 23:38, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 9:59 PM David Hildenbrand (Arm)
> <david@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 4/27/26 13:43, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>> While preparing my slides for an LSF/MM talk, I realized that I did not
>>> yet remove page_mapped().
>>>
>>> So let's do that. In the BPF arena code it's unclear which memdesc we
>>> would want to allocate in the future: certainly something with a
>>> refcount, but likely none with a mapcount. So let's just rely on
>>> the page refcount instead to decide whether we want to try zapping the
>>> page from user page tables.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@kernel.org>
>>> ---
>>
>> I scanned AI review and I think it founds something that is not related to this
>> patch.
>>
>> We use the page_mapped()->page_ref_count() check as an optimization to avoid
>> calling zap_vma_range(). We must be able to call it even without that optimization.
>>
>> Just like the bulk zap call earlier
>>
>>         if (page_cnt > 1)
>>                 /* bulk zap if multiple pages being freed */
>>                 zap_pages(arena, full_uaddr, page_cnt);
>>
>> It talks about concurrent "munmap(), unmap_region() executes unmap_vmas()"
>> racing with our zap_vma_range().
>>
>> Looking into the details, arena_map_mmap() calls remember_vma(). We reject
>> mremap and VMA split. arena_vm_close() removes the VMA from the list. The
>> arena->lock protects our VMA list.
>>
>> So in zap_pages, the VMA cannot go away. If we find a VMA, ->close could not
>> have been called yet.
>>
>> In vma.c, we call remove_vma() after vms_clear_pte(). So after unmapping the
>> pages and freeing the page tables.
>>
>> So munmap() can indeed race with zap_vma_range(), and the page_mapped() check
>> would not have changed anything about that really.
>>
>>
>> @BPF folks: does BPF take anywhere the mmap lock in read mode before calling
>> zap_vma_range()? It should do that.
> 
> Yes, but do NOT.

In general, do NOT talk to me like that.


As I discussed recently with Ryan, we should update the locking requirements for
zap_vma_range().

I assume friendly BPF folks will take care of fixing this.

-- 
Cheers,

David


      reply	other threads:[~2026-04-28  5:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-27 11:43 [PATCH 0/3] mm: remove page_mapped() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-27 11:43 ` [PATCH 1/3] sh: use folio_mapped() instead of page_mapped() in sh4_flush_cache_page() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-27 12:43   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-27 11:43 ` [PATCH 2/3] bpf: arena: use page_ref_count() instead of page_mapped() in arena_free_pages() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-27 12:17   ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-27 15:00     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-27 15:15       ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-27 15:27         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-28  8:16       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-28 16:58         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-28 19:38           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-28  8:44       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-04-27 13:00   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-27 11:43 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: remove page_mapped() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-27 13:12   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-27 13:21   ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-27 13:23     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-27 14:42       ` Breno Leitao
2026-04-27 14:59         ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-27 20:59 ` [PATCH 0/3] " David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-27 21:38   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-28  5:37     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]

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