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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: "Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@kernel.org>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Clark Williams" <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	"Sean Christopherson" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/mmu_notifier: Remove non_block_start/end() from notifier invocation
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2026 10:49:34 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260812134934.GC662699@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c41c52f02f033ea980d4b5f9b8239d5e9411a03c.camel@infradead.org>

On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 02:46:08PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> I hear you. I'm less sceptical, given the use case, but I'll certainly
> concede that the universe is known for inventing better idiots.
> 
> I'm certainly not averse to having a wrapper so that the read sections
> don't just srcu_read_lock() directly, but also get a sanity check
> (non_block_start? local_irq_save? what would it actually be? does it
> have to be different for the hardirq vs. process-context invocations?)
> for free.
> 
> Or instead of a GPC-specific wrapper, do we make it a first-class SRCU
> citizen, SRCU_READ_FLAVOR_ATOMIC? If it disables preemption, we'd know
> that lock+unlock must happen on the *same* CPU, which could potentially
> simplify my new try_synchronize_srcu() and/or allow for a *spinning*
> grace period if we really do want that (although I'm unconvinced; it's
> *latency* we care about here, and punting to the WQ when we *already*
> have to wait is fair enough).

These all seem like good ideas, then you don't need to touch the
notifiers..

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-12 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-11  8:58 [PATCH] mm/mmu_notifier: Remove non_block_start/end() from notifier invocation David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 13:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 14:21   ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 14:27     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 14:33       ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 14:42         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-11 15:24           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:30             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-12  8:14             ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-12  8:21               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 12:27                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-12 13:46                   ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 13:49                     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-08-12 14:05                       ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 14:26                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-12 14:38                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 14:34                         ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 15:03                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 15:49                             ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 16:04                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-08-12  8:13           ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-11 15:29         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 15:15       ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:24         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 15:29           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 16:24             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 17:22               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 17:26                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 17:59                   ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 18:19                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 20:06                       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 20:21                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-08-11 21:14                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 22:58                             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 23:50                               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 10:25                                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 20:29                         ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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