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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: "Garg, Shivank" <shivankg@amd.com>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] mm/migrate: add copy offload registration infrastructure
Date: Sun, 24 May 2026 19:19:15 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <468db563-73b0-3f77-cf42-bb24f744c7d1@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f35bc7f9-c75f-e6d1-df3a-d536047e9461@google.com>

Received a bounce for Jonathan, so adding in his other email address.


On Sun, 24 May 2026, David Rientjes wrote:

> On Wed, 20 May 2026, Garg, Shivank wrote:
> 
> > >> +static bool migrate_offload_do_batch(int reason)
> > >> +{
> > >> +	if (!static_branch_unlikely(&migrate_offload_enabled))
> > >> +		return false;
> > >> +
> > >> +	switch (reason) {
> > >> +	case MR_COMPACTION:
> > >> +	case MR_SYSCALL:
> > >> +	case MR_DEMOTION:
> > >> +	case MR_NUMA_MISPLACED:
> > >> +		return true;
> > >> +	default:
> > >> +		return false;
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What's the exact reason we don't do this for hotunplug etc? IOW, why do we make
> > > this depend on a reason?
> > 
> > Reason-based filtering could be a requirement for some users who want only specific
> > use cases to go through DMA offload.
> > 
> 
> +1, I think this makes a lot of sense; not all DMA offloads are created 
> equally and we may prefer to unburden them from being contended by 
> migrations that they are not intending to accelerate.
> 
> > For the RFC, I introduced a placeholder to enable further discussion on which use cases
> > should allow migration offload and whether offload users actually need this control?
> > 
> > Your other point also makes sense: "If someone migrates a handful of folios, latency is
> > likely more important (and batching less beneficial)."
> > Based on this, we could either fully rely on batch size. I'll think more about this.
> > 
> 
> There are, or will be, some offloads that must be used for certain types 
> of page migrations, like Confidential Computing.  That's for functional 
> reasons, not a heuristic.
> 
> We want to use certain hardware assists solely for promotion and demotion 
> of memory for tiering.  We certainly wouldn't want those hardware assists 
> to be inundated by users doing tons of move_pages(2) on their own or by 
> best effort memory compaction in the kernel.
> 
> I think the use cases should be configurable by the user if at all 
> possible so we can control what has access to being offloaded.  These are 
> often shared system resources and can be contended like any other 
> resource, so configuring which migrations can use them vs not use them 
> seems important.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-25  2:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-28 15:50 [PATCH 0/7] Accelerate page migration with batch copying and hardware offload Shivank Garg
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 1/7] mm/migrate: rename PAGE_ migration flags to FOLIO_ Shivank Garg
2026-04-30  9:07   ` Huang, Ying
     [not found]   ` <20260518175429.1b28e8c1@jic23-huawei>
2026-05-18 23:51     ` Zi Yan
2026-06-09  5:34   ` Dev Jain
2026-06-09  6:17     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-09  6:23       ` Dev Jain
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 2/7] mm/migrate: use migrate_info field instead of private Shivank Garg
2026-05-07  9:43   ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-11 15:22   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 3/7] mm/migrate: skip data copy for already-copied folios Shivank Garg
2026-05-11 15:35   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:21     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 11:26       ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 15:18         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:41           ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 15:43             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 19:32               ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-09 12:55                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:09       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 4/7] mm/migrate: add batch-copy path in migrate_pages_batch Shivank Garg
2026-05-11 15:40   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:06     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 15:25       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:36         ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 20:40           ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 21:17             ` Karim Manaouil
2026-05-21 13:20   ` Garg, Shivank
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 5/7] mm/migrate: add copy offload registration infrastructure Shivank Garg
2026-05-11 15:46   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:24     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-11 15:50   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:22     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-25  2:16       ` David Rientjes
2026-05-25  2:19         ` David Rientjes [this message]
2026-06-11  9:55         ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-11 18:44           ` Zi Yan
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 6/7] drivers/migrate_offload: add DMA batch copy driver (dcbm) Shivank Garg
2026-06-09  0:00   ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-09  7:31     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-09 16:17       ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-10 12:26         ` Shivank Garg
2026-06-19 16:07   ` [PATCH 6/7] drivers/migrate_offload: add DMA batch copy driver (dcbm) Karim Manaouil
2026-06-19 16:32     ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-22 10:03     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 7/7] mm/migrate: adjust NR_MAX_BATCHED_MIGRATION for testing Shivank Garg
2026-04-28 17:11 ` [PATCH 0/7] Accelerate page migration with batch copying and hardware offload Garg, Shivank
2026-04-28 19:33   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-29  5:51     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-04-30  8:47 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-08 11:04   ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-08 11:28     ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-08 12:34       ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-09  7:49         ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-10 15:03           ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-12  2:15             ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-20 15:23               ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-07  9:58 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-11 15:19   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-12  1:45     ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-11 15:53 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-12  2:35   ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-12  6:34     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-14  6:42       ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-20 15:35   ` Garg, Shivank

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