From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: "Garg, Shivank" <shivankg@amd.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] mm/migrate: add copy offload registration infrastructure
Date: Sun, 24 May 2026 19:19:15 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <468db563-73b0-3f77-cf42-bb24f744c7d1@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f35bc7f9-c75f-e6d1-df3a-d536047e9461@google.com>
Received a bounce for Jonathan, so adding in his other email address.
On Sun, 24 May 2026, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Wed, 20 May 2026, Garg, Shivank wrote:
>
> > >> +static bool migrate_offload_do_batch(int reason)
> > >> +{
> > >> + if (!static_branch_unlikely(&migrate_offload_enabled))
> > >> + return false;
> > >> +
> > >> + switch (reason) {
> > >> + case MR_COMPACTION:
> > >> + case MR_SYSCALL:
> > >> + case MR_DEMOTION:
> > >> + case MR_NUMA_MISPLACED:
> > >> + return true;
> > >> + default:
> > >> + return false;
> > >
> > >
> > > What's the exact reason we don't do this for hotunplug etc? IOW, why do we make
> > > this depend on a reason?
> >
> > Reason-based filtering could be a requirement for some users who want only specific
> > use cases to go through DMA offload.
> >
>
> +1, I think this makes a lot of sense; not all DMA offloads are created
> equally and we may prefer to unburden them from being contended by
> migrations that they are not intending to accelerate.
>
> > For the RFC, I introduced a placeholder to enable further discussion on which use cases
> > should allow migration offload and whether offload users actually need this control?
> >
> > Your other point also makes sense: "If someone migrates a handful of folios, latency is
> > likely more important (and batching less beneficial)."
> > Based on this, we could either fully rely on batch size. I'll think more about this.
> >
>
> There are, or will be, some offloads that must be used for certain types
> of page migrations, like Confidential Computing. That's for functional
> reasons, not a heuristic.
>
> We want to use certain hardware assists solely for promotion and demotion
> of memory for tiering. We certainly wouldn't want those hardware assists
> to be inundated by users doing tons of move_pages(2) on their own or by
> best effort memory compaction in the kernel.
>
> I think the use cases should be configurable by the user if at all
> possible so we can control what has access to being offloaded. These are
> often shared system resources and can be contended like any other
> resource, so configuring which migrations can use them vs not use them
> seems important.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-25 2:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-28 15:50 [PATCH 0/7] Accelerate page migration with batch copying and hardware offload Shivank Garg
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 1/7] mm/migrate: rename PAGE_ migration flags to FOLIO_ Shivank Garg
2026-04-30 9:07 ` Huang, Ying
[not found] ` <20260518175429.1b28e8c1@jic23-huawei>
2026-05-18 23:51 ` Zi Yan
2026-06-09 5:34 ` Dev Jain
2026-06-09 6:17 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-09 6:23 ` Dev Jain
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 2/7] mm/migrate: use migrate_info field instead of private Shivank Garg
2026-05-07 9:43 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-11 15:22 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 3/7] mm/migrate: skip data copy for already-copied folios Shivank Garg
2026-05-11 15:35 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:21 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 11:26 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 15:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:41 ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 15:43 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 19:32 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-09 12:55 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 4/7] mm/migrate: add batch-copy path in migrate_pages_batch Shivank Garg
2026-05-11 15:40 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:06 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 15:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:36 ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 20:40 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 21:17 ` Karim Manaouil
2026-05-21 13:20 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 5/7] mm/migrate: add copy offload registration infrastructure Shivank Garg
2026-05-11 15:46 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:24 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-11 15:50 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:22 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-25 2:16 ` David Rientjes
2026-05-25 2:19 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2026-06-11 9:55 ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-11 18:44 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 6/7] drivers/migrate_offload: add DMA batch copy driver (dcbm) Shivank Garg
2026-06-09 0:00 ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-09 7:31 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-09 16:17 ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-10 12:26 ` Shivank Garg
2026-06-19 16:07 ` [PATCH 6/7] drivers/migrate_offload: add DMA batch copy driver (dcbm) Karim Manaouil
2026-06-19 16:32 ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-22 10:03 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 7/7] mm/migrate: adjust NR_MAX_BATCHED_MIGRATION for testing Shivank Garg
2026-04-28 17:11 ` [PATCH 0/7] Accelerate page migration with batch copying and hardware offload Garg, Shivank
2026-04-28 19:33 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-29 5:51 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-04-30 8:47 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-08 11:04 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-08 11:28 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-08 12:34 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-09 7:49 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-10 15:03 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-12 2:15 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-20 15:23 ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-07 9:58 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-11 15:19 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-12 1:45 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-11 15:53 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-12 2:35 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-12 6:34 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-14 6:42 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-20 15:35 ` Garg, Shivank
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