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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: "Garg, Shivank" <shivankg@amd.com>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] mm/migrate: add copy offload registration infrastructure
Date: Sun, 24 May 2026 19:16:55 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f35bc7f9-c75f-e6d1-df3a-d536047e9461@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70ee3800-0469-4c3d-8a1c-bb6594c64f42@amd.com>

On Wed, 20 May 2026, Garg, Shivank wrote:

> >> +static bool migrate_offload_do_batch(int reason)
> >> +{
> >> +	if (!static_branch_unlikely(&migrate_offload_enabled))
> >> +		return false;
> >> +
> >> +	switch (reason) {
> >> +	case MR_COMPACTION:
> >> +	case MR_SYSCALL:
> >> +	case MR_DEMOTION:
> >> +	case MR_NUMA_MISPLACED:
> >> +		return true;
> >> +	default:
> >> +		return false;
> > 
> > 
> > What's the exact reason we don't do this for hotunplug etc? IOW, why do we make
> > this depend on a reason?
> 
> Reason-based filtering could be a requirement for some users who want only specific
> use cases to go through DMA offload.
> 

+1, I think this makes a lot of sense; not all DMA offloads are created 
equally and we may prefer to unburden them from being contended by 
migrations that they are not intending to accelerate.

> For the RFC, I introduced a placeholder to enable further discussion on which use cases
> should allow migration offload and whether offload users actually need this control?
> 
> Your other point also makes sense: "If someone migrates a handful of folios, latency is
> likely more important (and batching less beneficial)."
> Based on this, we could either fully rely on batch size. I'll think more about this.
> 

There are, or will be, some offloads that must be used for certain types 
of page migrations, like Confidential Computing.  That's for functional 
reasons, not a heuristic.

We want to use certain hardware assists solely for promotion and demotion 
of memory for tiering.  We certainly wouldn't want those hardware assists 
to be inundated by users doing tons of move_pages(2) on their own or by 
best effort memory compaction in the kernel.

I think the use cases should be configurable by the user if at all 
possible so we can control what has access to being offloaded.  These are 
often shared system resources and can be contended like any other 
resource, so configuring which migrations can use them vs not use them 
seems important.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-25  2:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-28 15:50 [PATCH 0/7] Accelerate page migration with batch copying and hardware offload Shivank Garg
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 1/7] mm/migrate: rename PAGE_ migration flags to FOLIO_ Shivank Garg
2026-04-30  9:07   ` Huang, Ying
     [not found]   ` <20260518175429.1b28e8c1@jic23-huawei>
2026-05-18 23:51     ` Zi Yan
2026-06-09  5:34   ` Dev Jain
2026-06-09  6:17     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-09  6:23       ` Dev Jain
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 2/7] mm/migrate: use migrate_info field instead of private Shivank Garg
2026-05-07  9:43   ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-11 15:22   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 3/7] mm/migrate: skip data copy for already-copied folios Shivank Garg
2026-05-11 15:35   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:21     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 11:26       ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 15:18         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:41           ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 15:43             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 19:32               ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-09 12:55                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:09       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 4/7] mm/migrate: add batch-copy path in migrate_pages_batch Shivank Garg
2026-05-11 15:40   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:06     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 15:25       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:36         ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 20:40           ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 21:17             ` Karim Manaouil
2026-05-21 13:20   ` Garg, Shivank
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 5/7] mm/migrate: add copy offload registration infrastructure Shivank Garg
2026-05-11 15:46   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:24     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-11 15:50   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:22     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-25  2:16       ` David Rientjes [this message]
2026-05-25  2:19         ` David Rientjes
2026-06-11  9:55         ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-11 18:44           ` Zi Yan
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 6/7] drivers/migrate_offload: add DMA batch copy driver (dcbm) Shivank Garg
2026-06-09  0:00   ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-09  7:31     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-09 16:17       ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-10 12:26         ` Shivank Garg
2026-06-19 16:07   ` [PATCH 6/7] drivers/migrate_offload: add DMA batch copy driver (dcbm) Karim Manaouil
2026-06-19 16:32     ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-22 10:03     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 7/7] mm/migrate: adjust NR_MAX_BATCHED_MIGRATION for testing Shivank Garg
2026-04-28 17:11 ` [PATCH 0/7] Accelerate page migration with batch copying and hardware offload Garg, Shivank
2026-04-28 19:33   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-29  5:51     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-04-30  8:47 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-08 11:04   ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-08 11:28     ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-08 12:34       ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-09  7:49         ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-10 15:03           ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-12  2:15             ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-20 15:23               ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-07  9:58 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-11 15:19   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-12  1:45     ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-11 15:53 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-12  2:35   ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-12  6:34     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-14  6:42       ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-20 15:35   ` Garg, Shivank

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