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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>, Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v18 11/14] mm/khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2026 10:05:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46bb9d9e-03f0-4e26-9ac9-1cdc5ba9bf4d@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <185f5699-3797-4300-8c54-bb99fc2a45e0@linux.dev>

On 6/2/26 17:44, Lance Yang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2026/6/2 18:58, Nico Pache wrote:
>> On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 1:19 AM Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Hmm ... don't we lose the allocation-failure result here?
>>>
>>> Previously collapse_scan_pmd() propagated SCAN_ALLOC_HUGE_PAGE_FAIL from
>>> collapse_huge_page(), so khugepaged would call khugepaged_alloc_sleep()
>>> in khugepaged_do_scan().
>>>
>>> Now if allocation fails and nr_collapsed stays 0, we just return
>>> SCAN_FAIL. So we won't back off via khugepaged_alloc_sleep() anymore?
>>
>> Ok I did the error propagation! I think I handled both of these cases
>> you brought up pretty easily.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>> However I don't know what to do in the following case: We successfully
>> collapsed some portion of the PMD, but during that process, we also
>> hit an allocation failure. Is it best to back off entirely? or can we
>> treat some forward progress as a sign we can continue trying collapses
>> without sleeping.
>>
>> Basically, do we prioritize SCAN_ALLOC_HUGE_PAGE_FAIL or the
>> successful collapses as the returned value?
> 
> Thinking out loud, forward progress should win here, the allocation
> failure only matter if we made no progress at all?

Agreed, in the first approach, forward progress makes sense.

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-03  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-22 14:59 [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 01/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 02/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 03/14] mm/khugepaged: rework max_ptes_* handling with helper functions Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:16   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 13:26   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 04/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:24   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 14:39   ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 14:04   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 05/14] mm/khugepaged: require collapse_huge_page to enter/exit with the lock dropped Nico Pache
2026-06-01 14:07   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 10:26     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 06/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:47   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 14:42   ` Nico Pache
2026-05-31  9:39   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 20:00     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  3:28       ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01  6:54         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  7:49           ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01  8:15             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  8:44               ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 10:09                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  9:08           ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 10:23             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 10:47               ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 11:13                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 15:00                   ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 15:05                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 16:07                       ` Lance Yang
2026-06-02 15:30                 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 16:34                   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 07/14] mm/khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:51   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 08/14] mm/khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics Nico Pache
2026-05-31 20:09   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 14:13   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 09/14] mm/khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 10/14] mm/khugepaged: introduce collapse_allowable_orders helper function Nico Pache
2026-05-31 20:18   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 14:35     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 14:40       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 11/14] mm/khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-25 14:15   ` Nico Pache
2026-05-25 19:10     ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-26  6:57       ` Wei Yang
2026-05-26 12:07         ` Nico Pache
2026-05-28  8:42           ` Wei Yang
2026-05-28 17:11             ` Nico Pache
2026-05-31  7:18   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31  8:48     ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 12:01       ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 12:06         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 10:58     ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 15:44       ` Lance Yang
2026-06-03  8:05         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-06-01  8:11   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 12:40     ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 13:15       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 17:23         ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 17:26           ` Nico Pache
2026-06-03  9:55           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-03 10:00           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-03 12:16             ` Nico Pache
2026-06-03 12:27               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 12/14] mm/khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2026-05-31  7:31   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 20:02     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  1:53       ` Lance Yang
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 13/14] mm/khugepaged: run khugepaged for all orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 14/14] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:58   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 12:00     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-26 14:45   ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:07 ` [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:13   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-05-22 16:11     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:13       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26  8:33         ` Process (was Re: [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP) " Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-26 19:09           ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-26 20:42           ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-05-31 19:49             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 15:41               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 15:45                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 16:16                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 11:20                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 11:31                       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 12:47                         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 12:55                         ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-02 13:01                           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 17:31                           ` Mike Rapoport
2026-06-03  6:48                             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-03  8:39                               ` Mike Rapoport
2026-06-03  9:57                                 ` Mark Brown
2026-06-03 10:51                                   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-06-03  9:03                               ` Mark Brown
2026-06-02 12:40                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 12:49                         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 12:47                       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-02 12:58                         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 13:08                           ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-02 13:16                             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-03  1:48                               ` SeongJae Park
2026-06-01 15:37             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 15:43               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 15:47                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 16:00                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:16   ` [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP " Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 16:08     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 16:19       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 16:31         ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 17:12           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-26  8:14             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 20:47 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-01 15:58   ` Alexander Gordeev
2026-06-01 17:05     ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 17:08     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02  1:53       ` Lance Yang

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