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From: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Sourav Panda <souravpanda@google.com>,
	osalvador@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, ljs@kernel.org,
	liam@infradead.org, vbabka@kernel.org, rppt@kernel.org,
	surenb@google.com, mhocko@suse.com, mst@redhat.com,
	mhklinux@outlook.com, fvdl@google.com, gthelen@google.com,
	mike.kravetz@oracle.com, pasha.tatashin@soleen.com,
	rientjes@google.com, riel@surriel.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] mm/hugetlb: Dynamic, NUMA-aware HugePage Cache & Free Page Reporting
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 16:09:35 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48E0B0E2-4CE2-40B5-A7C3-9DEEF9F49C41@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9624988a-366e-4884-9408-3f3b88c27290@kernel.org>



> On Jul 7, 2026, at 15:29, David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> On 7/7/26 08:42, Sourav Panda wrote:
>> Overview
>> This patch series introduces a dynamic, NUMA-aware HugePage Cache,
>> backed by a kernel shrinker to safely return memory under pressure, and
>> integrates it with Free Page Reporting (virtio-balloon) for HugeTLB,
>> specifically targeting gigantic (1GB) hugepages. The goal is to solve
>> the tradeoff between allocation latency and memory
>> fungibility in virtualized and heterogeneous cloud environments.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> in general, we consider hugetlb nowadays to be mostly in feature freeze, as we
> realized a while ago that adding more special casing on top of something too
> special for all of MM is only going to hurt us more in the long run.
> 
> We want to have less special casing and less special sauce, not more.
> 
> Now, there is nothing wrong in making hugetlb be less special, by making it use
> more of core infrastructure etc.

+1

HugeTLB is already complex today, and the last thing we want is to compound
this complexity by piling more features on top of it. I fully share your view
that we should avoid going down this direction.

Thanks,
Muchun

> 
> But optimizing for surplus hugetlb pages by teaching hugetlb about new caches
> and its custom free-page-reporting support rather looks like the wrong direction
> for me?
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> 
> David



  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-07  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-07  6:42 [RFC PATCH 0/6] mm/hugetlb: Dynamic, NUMA-aware HugePage Cache & Free Page Reporting Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  6:42 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm/hugetlb: add Kconfig and basic cache infrastructure Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  6:42 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm/hugetlb: implement cache recycling and allocation Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  6:42 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm/hugetlb: add sysfs interfaces for cache Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  6:42 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm/hugetlb: add memory shrinker " Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  6:42 ` [PATCH 5/6] Documentation/admin-guide/mm/hugetlbpage.rst: document cache interfaces Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  6:42 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm/hugetlb: support free page reporting for cached hugepages Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  7:18   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-07 10:18   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-07  6:56 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] mm/hugetlb: Dynamic, NUMA-aware HugePage Cache & Free Page Reporting Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-07  7:21   ` Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  7:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-07  8:09   ` Muchun Song [this message]
2026-07-07 10:25   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-07 10:28     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-07 11:06       ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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