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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Sourav Panda <souravpanda@google.com>,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, osalvador@suse.de,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, ljs@kernel.org, liam@infradead.org,
	vbabka@kernel.org, rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
	mhocko@suse.com, mhklinux@outlook.com, fvdl@google.com,
	gthelen@google.com, mike.kravetz@oracle.com,
	pasha.tatashin@soleen.com, rientjes@google.com, riel@surriel.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] mm/hugetlb: Dynamic, NUMA-aware HugePage Cache & Free Page Reporting
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 12:28:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b9a48d89-74f1-43d4-b7bb-be988b6855c9@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260707062428-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On 7/7/26 12:25, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 07, 2026 at 09:29:07AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>> On 7/7/26 08:42, Sourav Panda wrote:
>>> Overview
>>> This patch series introduces a dynamic, NUMA-aware HugePage Cache,
>>> backed by a kernel shrinker to safely return memory under pressure, and
>>> integrates it with Free Page Reporting (virtio-balloon) for HugeTLB,
>>> specifically targeting gigantic (1GB) hugepages. The goal is to solve
>>> the tradeoff between allocation latency and memory
>>> fungibility in virtualized and heterogeneous cloud environments.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> in general, we consider hugetlb nowadays to be mostly in feature freeze, as we
>> realized a while ago that adding more special casing on top of something too
>> special for all of MM is only going to hurt us more in the long run.
>>
>> We want to have less special casing and less special sauce, not more.
>>
>> Now, there is nothing wrong in making hugetlb be less special, by making it use
>> more of core infrastructure etc.
>>
>> But optimizing for surplus hugetlb pages by teaching hugetlb about new caches
>> and its custom free-page-reporting support rather looks like the wrong direction
>> for me?
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheers,
>>
>> David
> 
> 
> It is currently bypassing free-page-reporting completely.
> Making existing free lists not ignore free-page-reporting would
> maybe considered "making it be less special"?
> 

Depends. We don't really want an orthogonal implementation of something we have
in core-mm.

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-07 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-07  6:42 [RFC PATCH 0/6] mm/hugetlb: Dynamic, NUMA-aware HugePage Cache & Free Page Reporting Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  6:42 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm/hugetlb: add Kconfig and basic cache infrastructure Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  6:42 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm/hugetlb: implement cache recycling and allocation Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  6:42 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm/hugetlb: add sysfs interfaces for cache Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  6:42 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm/hugetlb: add memory shrinker " Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  6:42 ` [PATCH 5/6] Documentation/admin-guide/mm/hugetlbpage.rst: document cache interfaces Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  6:42 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm/hugetlb: support free page reporting for cached hugepages Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  7:18   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-07 10:18   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-07  6:56 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] mm/hugetlb: Dynamic, NUMA-aware HugePage Cache & Free Page Reporting Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-07  7:21   ` Sourav Panda
2026-07-07  7:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-07  8:09   ` Muchun Song
2026-07-07 10:25   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-07 10:28     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-07-07 11:06       ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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