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From: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: kernel-team@meta.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
		linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 3/8] mm/gup: split follow_page_pte_commit() out of follow_page_pte()
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2026 12:19:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <576db557841c7989100cef3a16f2ddf0d8bf4ab9.camel@surriel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3b8cb743-702a-4362-9abb-7c30e687c3c2@kernel.org>

On Wed, 2026-08-12 at 15:23 +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 8/12/26 15:02, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > On Wed, 2026-08-12 at 13:50 +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> > > On 8/11/26 04:51, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > +/*
> > > > + * The caller has already run every per-PTE safety check
> > > > (present,
> > > > + * write-fault, gup_must_unshare()) on the PTE, so this only
> > > > does
> > > > the
> > > > + * per-folio work: the refcount grab, the FOLL_PIN
> > > > accessibility
> > > > fault-in,
> > > > + * dirty/accessed marking, and the array fill with the cache
> > > > flush.
> > > > + */
> > > 
> > > If a function needs 4 lines of internal doc to understand what it
> > > does, then
> > > maybe it's not the right function name or abstraction. :)
> > > 
> > > I don't particularly enjoy the "commit" terminology, it looses
> > > the
> > > detail of the
> > > most important thing this function is supposed to to: grab a
> > > folio
> > > reference.
> > > 
> > 
> > Should we rename it to gup_grab_folio() ?
> 
> It does more than grabbing, hm, let me think.
> 
> gup_grab_and_store_folio_pages()
> 
> not sure.

It does more than grabbing, but if we want to
have the PUD path use this same function, we
will probably want to move the gup_fill_pages()
call to outside the lock.

At that point we'll be left with grabbing the
pages, and marking the folio dirty/accessed,
plus the arch_make_folio_accessible() call,
which seems to be a noop on anything but s390,
where it makes the page accessible to the
hypervisor (not sure when/why GUP needs this).
> 
> > 
> > Looking at the differences between the pte and pmd
> > code, there is another big thing that stands out.
> > 
> > The pte code will call mark_folio_dirty() when
> > needed, but the pmd and pud code do not.
> 
> Yes, and my gut feeling is that the same helper should be also used
> in the other
> places. Maybe there is no real bug there, but the inconsistency is
> concerning.

The page table dirty bits should ensure that we
don't lose any data written to the page, but not
marking the folio dirty might mess with dirty
balancing.

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-12 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-11  2:51 [RFC PATCH v3 0/8] batch lookups in follow_page_mask() Rik van Riel
2026-08-11  2:51 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/8] mm/gup: break out gup_fill_pages() helper Rik van Riel
2026-08-11  2:51 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/8] mm/gup: convert follow_page_mask() to return a long Rik van Riel
2026-08-11  2:51 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/8] mm/gup: split follow_page_pte_commit() out of follow_page_pte() Rik van Riel
2026-08-12 11:50   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-12 13:02     ` Rik van Riel
2026-08-12 13:23       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-12 16:19         ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2026-08-21 17:38         ` Rik van Riel
2026-08-21 22:04           ` John Hubbard
2026-08-22 13:20             ` Rik van Riel
2026-08-22 21:31               ` John Hubbard
2026-08-11  2:51 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/8] mm/gup: break out follow_one_pte() helper Rik van Riel
2026-08-11  2:51 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/8] mm/gup: fill the pages array outside the pud/pmd lock Rik van Riel
2026-08-11  2:51 ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/8] mm/gup: return a huge page's full count from follow_page_mask() Rik van Riel
2026-08-11  2:51 ` [RFC PATCH v3 7/8] mm/gup: walk multiple PTEs per follow_page_pte() call Rik van Riel
2026-08-11  2:51 ` [RFC PATCH v3 8/8] mm/gup: batch contiguous same-folio PTEs into one refcount grab Rik van Riel
2026-08-12 11:41 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/8] batch lookups in follow_page_mask() David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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