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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Cc: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: Introduce zone_appears_fragmented()
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2026 12:27:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <76191a17-18bf-4e9b-9ab5-dc9a48abfabb@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260423055656.1696379-2-matthew.brost@intel.com>

On 4/23/26 07:56, Matthew Brost wrote:
> Introduce zone_appears_fragmented() as a lightweight helper to allow
> subsystems to make coarse decisions about reclaim behavior in the
> presence of likely fragmentation.
> 
> The helper implements a simple heuristic: if the number of free pages
> in a zone exceeds twice the high watermark, the zone is considered to
> have ample free memory and allocation failures are more likely due to
> fragmentation than overall memory pressure.
> 
> This is intentionally imprecise and is not meant to replace the core
> MM compaction or fragmentation accounting logic. Instead, it provides
> a cheap signal for callers (e.g., shrinkers) that wish to avoid
> overly aggressive reclaim when sufficient free memory exists but
> high-order allocations may still fail.
> 
> No functional changes; this is a preparatory helper for future users.
> 
> Cc: Thomas Hellström <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>
> Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
> Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
> Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>
> Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
> Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Signed-off-by: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
> ---
>  include/linux/vmstat.h | 13 +++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/vmstat.h b/include/linux/vmstat.h
> index 3c9c266cf782..568d9f4f1a1f 100644
> --- a/include/linux/vmstat.h
> +++ b/include/linux/vmstat.h
> @@ -483,6 +483,19 @@ static inline const char *zone_stat_name(enum zone_stat_item item)
>  	return vmstat_text[item];
>  }
>  
> +static inline bool zone_appears_fragmented(struct zone *zone)
> +{

"zone_likely_fragmented" or "zone_maybe_fragmented" might be clearer, depending
on the actual semantics.

> +	/*
> +	 * Simple heuristic: if the number of free pages is more than twice the
> +	 * high watermark, this strongly suggests that the zone is heavily
> +	 * fragmented when called from a shrinker.
> +	 */

I'll cc some more people. But the "when called from a shrinker" bit is
concerning. Are there additional semantics that should be expressed in the
function name, for example?

Something that implies that this function only gives you a reasonable answer in
a certain context.

-- 
Cheers,

David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-23 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-23  5:56 [PATCH v2 0/5] mm, drm/ttm, drm/xe: Avoid reclaim/eviction loops under fragmentation Matthew Brost
2026-04-23  5:56 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: Introduce zone_appears_fragmented() Matthew Brost
2026-04-23  6:04   ` Balbir Singh
2026-04-23  6:16     ` Matthew Brost
2026-04-23  6:27       ` Matthew Brost
2026-04-23 10:27   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-04-23 11:27     ` Thomas Hellström

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