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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	 "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)"	 <willy@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett"	 <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport	 <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko	 <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	 Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, 	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/3] mm: track DONTCACHE dirty pages per bdi_writeback
Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 09:29:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <960ba89c3c6a04a7b9137322493d65e4ab4cd7d2.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260511-begonnen-zuwege-b4272b78eb00@brauner>

On Mon, 2026-05-11 at 15:10 +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2026 at 07:58:28AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > Add a per-wb WB_DONTCACHE_DIRTY counter that tracks the number of dirty
> > pages with the dropbehind flag set (i.e., pages dirtied via RWF_DONTCACHE
> > writes).
> > 
> > Increment the counter alongside WB_RECLAIMABLE in folio_account_dirtied()
> > when the folio has the dropbehind flag set, and decrement it in
> > folio_clear_dirty_for_io() and folio_account_cleaned(). Also decrement it
> > when a non-DONTCACHE lookup atomically clears the dropbehind flag on a
> > dirty folio in __filemap_get_folio_mpol(), using folio_test_clear_dropbehind()
> > to prevent concurrent lookups from double-decrementing the counter, and
> > guarding the decrement with mapping_can_writeback() to match the increment
> > path.
> > 
> > Transfer the counter alongside WB_RECLAIMABLE in inode_do_switch_wbs() so
> > that the stat is properly migrated when an inode switches cgroup writeback
> > domains.
> > 
> > The counter will be used by the writeback flusher to determine how many
> > pages to write back when expediting writeback for IOCB_DONTCACHE writes,
> > without flushing the entire BDI's dirty pages.
> > 
> > Suggested-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> > Assisted-by: Claude:claude-opus-4-6
> 
> Picking up on something we discussed at LSFMM in one of the sessions as
> an aside rant: I find these AI Assisted-by tags so useless tbh and just
> pure noise in the git log _especially_ for a core developer like Jeff
> that I really don't see the point of them and I'm always tempted to just
> remove the tags when I apply. I have dropped them before because I found
> them so pointless.
> 
> Crediting Jan here is the right thing to do and it provides actual value
> and also just makes sure that a real person who spent time helping out
> gets visibility in the git history. Why we should extend the same
> courtesy to automated tooling is really beyond me. Somehow we've become
> all convinced that these tools require a special status but have spent
> months arguing about the usefulness of other tags.

To be clear, Christoph and Ritesh also contributed a lot of review and
suggestions.

I was mainly trying to follow this new verbiage in
Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst:

------------------8<-------------------
Using Assisted-by:
------------------
If you used any sort of advanced coding tool in the creation of your patch,
you need to acknowledge that use by adding an Assisted-by tag.  Failure to
do so may impede the acceptance of your work.  Please see
Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst for details regarding the
acknowledgment of coding assistants.
------------------8<-------------------

If we're demanding this from anyone, then we should demand it from
everyone. I don't think we want one set of rules for core contributors
and another set for other folks.

As to whether we should add them at all -- I don't know. I think it
really comes down to what we intend to do with this info. I'll play
devil's advocate for the moment:

The cost of adding these tags is low. It's just a few extra bits in the
repo. Maybe this could eventually have historical value?
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-11 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-11 11:58 [PATCH v7 0/3] mm: improve write performance with RWF_DONTCACHE Jeff Layton
2026-05-11 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] mm: preserve PG_dropbehind flag during folio split Jeff Layton
2026-05-11 12:38   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-12 13:58   ` Jan Kara
2026-05-11 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] mm: track DONTCACHE dirty pages per bdi_writeback Jeff Layton
2026-05-11 13:10   ` Christian Brauner
2026-05-11 13:29     ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2026-05-11 13:34       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-12 14:07   ` Jan Kara
2026-05-11 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] mm: kick writeback flusher for IOCB_DONTCACHE with targeted dirty tracking Jeff Layton
2026-05-11 13:24   ` Christian Brauner
2026-05-11 13:53     ` Jeff Layton
2026-05-11 14:06       ` Christian Brauner
2026-05-12 14:17   ` Jan Kara

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